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Free Will Question
Kat:
Hi JimH,
Just go over to the introduction board and click on new topic, and you can tell us a little about yourself :)
Here's the link to that board
http://forums.bible-truths.com/index.php/board,8.0.html
You explantion was quite good, you made some really good points. But we are not really "pure evil." Here is part of an email that Ray explans this.
http://forums.bible-truths.com/index.php/topic,6383.0.html ----
Actually Jer. 17:9 does not say that "The heart is deceitful above all things and desperately WICKED." The Hebrew reads: "The heart is deceitful above all things and is EXCEEDINGLY WEAK." We are all human; we all have a heart; we're ALL ARE EXCEEDINGLY WEAK.
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mercy, peace and love
Kat
GODSown1:
Amen Little Joe,
I beleave little Joe answered it well in his first Post, All is of GOD, I personally look back on my lifE & C @least 4 major turning points in my life d@ @ da time if I new GOD & our SAVIOR az I do now I wouldve jus thort WoteVa! how could dea b a GOD 4 all dis 2 hav happened 2 me, But! now I look @ dem dey were da Best finGz d@ couldve happened 2 mE, 4 me 2 b where I am 2day, PraisE GOD most assuRedly!, ( jus a quick backrownd of myself, I waz a Gang member for Ova 20yrZ frm 1981-2003), 2005 I was woken up 2 da Fact der is a GOD, & HE is sO in ControL!, AlwayZ!!, GOD BlesS sozo GOD will Reveal all 2 U in HIS Perfect Timing, PeaCe 2 U & urz..
much muchLOVE!! Pera
ps. Welcome JimH, & Amen! 2 ur Post, GOD BlesS! u
Phil3:10:
It is hard for the carnal man to accept the truth that all is of GOD. I am so thankful that I am where I am in my life as far as living where I live, having the parents I had, being blessed in so many ways. Why did GOD bless me so much? I could have been born in a third world nation and at the brink of starvation with a life expectancy of 30 years. When I witness the suffering in this world it is hard to understand the mind of GOD. I don't think it is possible for carnal men to understand GOD'S ways. If we could unconditionally accept his will, even when we suffer, we would have that peace that passes all understanding. I choose to believe that all is of GOD, the good, the bad and the ugly.
All is left up to HIM, HIS ways and thoughts are so far above mine that their is no measurement known to mankind capable of measuring same. All we need do is to look around us and no matter the pain, hurt or evil we see just remember that 'there for the grace of GOD go I'.
This life is full of trials but look at the promises we have to look forward to.
Phil3:10
jeetkunejimi:
Hi there,
the way I see it my friend is that we do have a will and your scripture reference is vallid, just because our will's are not ultimately out of the soverign duristiction of God's will doesn't mean we cannot be held accountable for our choices which are our own choices in any given situation that God puts before us on a daily basis. If we make godly choices we grow closer to God and conversly further away from Him if we make bad choices.
We still have authority on this earth from Adam over all the creation creatures but we do not have soverignity. God through Jesus is drawing us all towards him, steadily and in due time until all are reformed and the restitution of all things is complete.
I hope this may be of some help to you my friend, I will be glad to expand on what I have said if it has been of some help to you and you would like to reason together with me further on God. Nonetheless God's will be done. I pray God will continue to give you eyes and ears to see and hear the things that the spirit of God is saying to you. Amen.
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