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phazel:

--- Quote from: Linny on February 14, 2008, 08:24:17 PM --- I think we bring on most of our own curses through our sin, poor decisions, lack of looking up, lack of faith.

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I think we have to determine the "cause" of what you say here.   Our Sin is ours because we commit the sinful act, but God is ultimatly responsible for the circumstances that were preordained to happen.

We may indeed have a lack of faith, but why do we have that lack of faith?  If God determines when the measure of faith is given, then we are not responsible.

We are accountable because "WE" are the ones that have to be changed.  It may seem unfair, but in reality it is the fairest thing there is.   What better place to fall than in the hands of the living God who will ultimatly save everyone and ultimatly bring us to the knowledge of truth?

Once you see accountability in a positive light rather  than the light of condemnation it will start to make more sense.

Rather then condemnation making us accountable, scripture says, "there is now no condemnation in Jesus Christ"  So, if we are still accountable, how can it be a bad thing?

Do YOU really want to be the one that has to figure out the UNSEEN?    NOT ME !!!!  :)

mharrell08:
Great point Phazel

Linny:
First, I didn't mean that I "do" anything to receive favor besides believing it exists. Just as my believing in the salvation of ALL rather than a select few. Both are gifts the Lord has given to me through His revelation. So to me, what Ray says in that quote only backs up what I was saying. It isn't about my free will but His.

As far as "We are accountable because "WE" are the ones that have to be changed.", my wording may have been unclear when I said, "We bring on..."  Nothing happens without a cause. Yahweh is the cause of all. There are consequences for our choices regardless. Some think they are making free will choices, we know we are under the absolute reign of an Almighty God. Either way, consequences follow decisions. Some curses, some blessings, our God-driven choices.

Sorin:
That Albert Einstein was a pretty smart guy; for he once said: ""A man can very well do what he wants, but he can not will what he wants"

I think he was on to something. ;)

Peace,
Sorin

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