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Hell vs. the Lake of Fire
Deborah-Leigh:
I am glad you received something helpful from my post Dante.
Also just another thought. God is a consuming fire right? Does God change? No. Then think about Shadrach Meshach and Abed -nego. They were seen walking in the fire right? They were not burnt or harmed but were walking in the fire with Christ.
I believe we have to come to the place where nothing we have or have become can burn either. We know that grass and stubble can be burnt so this place for me is where I shall have no more attachments to the worlds carnality that will be burnt. That place is where we too will walk in Gods fire and commune with Him.
If a burning bush can do it then God can make us do it too. :) God will be God. He will save us all and we are more to God than that bush that did not burn that Moses saw. :)
All wickedness, deceits, selfishness and evil will be burnt off of us in the judgments of God either now or later. This is what Ray teaches in the judgments on the House of God now as in one of the two judgments. The other being the White Throne when Christ comes again in the Day of the Lord. That Day is still to come. We are blessed to be living in these times of calling us out.
Peace be with you
Arcturus :)
Paul:
--- Quote from: Arcturus on March 16, 2008, 11:43:15 PM ---God is a consuming fire right? Does God change? No.
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So, he's an everlasting consuming fire?
Deborah-Leigh:
In the equasion of who has to change it is us who have to become like God not God who has to become like us. God is a consuming fire and God does not change. God is not hell but some might not agree with me. :)
Peace to you
Arcturus :)
Martinez:
--- Quote from: Arcturus on March 16, 2008, 03:07:33 PM ---Perhaps this can explain it.....
A person goes through life using the false teaching that there is a hell, as their way of letting off steam when they are hurt, abused or persecuted by others. They get a sense of righteous indignation and they feel better by thinking that anyone who upsets them will go to Hell and that God will punish them in eternal torment.
Arcturus :)
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The thought occurred to me when I read what you said, that maybe these are the murderers mentioned in Revelation who have their part in the lake of fire?
I mean compared to thinking and relishing that your enemies will be tortured for all eternity, real physical murder pales into insignificance!
1Jo 3:15 Whosoever hateth his brother is a murderer: and ye know that no murderer hath eternal life abiding in him.
Just a thought.
Dante:
--- Quote from: Arcturus on March 16, 2008, 11:43:15 PM ---I am glad you received something helpful from my post Dante.
Also just another thought. God is a consuming fire right? Does God change? No. Then think about Shadrach Meshach and Abed -nego. They were seen walking in the fire right? They were not burnt or harmed but were walking in the fire with Christ.
I believe we have to come to the place where nothing we have or have become can burn either. We know that grass and stubble can be burnt so this place for me is where I shall have no more attachments to the worlds carnality that will be burnt. That place is where we too will walk in Gods fire and commune with Him.
If a burning bush can do it then God can make us do it too. :) God will be God. He will save us all and we are more to God than that bush that did not burn that Moses saw. :)
All wickedness, deceits, selfishness and evil will be burnt off of us in the judgments of God either now or later. This is what Ray teaches in the judgments on the House of God now as in one of the two judgments. The other being the White Throne when Christ comes again in the Day of the Lord. That Day is still to come. We are blessed to be living in these times of calling us out.
Peace be with you
Arcturus :)
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Yes Arcturus, I agree.
I find TWO main things that are hampering my walk with God.
The MAIN TWO things that I struggle with is FEAR (which is not anywhere as bad as it used to be, once I ousted the Hell doctrine).
And TRUST.
They go hand in hand though. I want to know everything about God and his plan,....and the universe (Not to much to ask huh?? :D).
Of course I don't know everything, SO, I get fearful.
I have to learn to let go!!!!
The thing that kills me, is that, I HATE it about me. I want to LET GO, but find it near impossible to do so.
I believe it is God testing me, to make me more like him. To be ONE with his mind. He has burned away A LOT of the Garbage and is working on the rest. It is a painful process, just as the Lake of Fire is going to be. I would hope he finishes before I have to go there myself for correction. BUT, either way is going to have to be fine with me. Since God has his plan for ALL OF OUR LIVES. And if mine happens to include the Lake of Fire. Then that is what will be needed.
Just gotta trust God. Every man on his own path. Every man becoming one with our God creator.
Just gotta love that fact that God will not let anyone perish. It still gives me a "Kick" to think ON THAT ONE!!!!
Peace Arcturus.
Thanks for the talk.
Dante ;D
PS. Just talking about it and admitting to myself that I have a problem area, makes me feel better about it. Maybe this is a stepping stone and something I should do more often. Even if I have to talk to myself,....LOL!
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