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Deborah-Leigh:
Hello Dante
You have posted many thoughts and I simply want to add a few more for you to perhaps ponder. I recall Rays very enlightening teaching on Repentance and Ray’s teaching on the return of Christ when Christ will say “Depart from me. I know you not.”
What follows is just what I am seeing at this time and it might settle your desire to know how much knowledge is enough.
Paul writes in Romans 9 : 2 I have BITTER GRIEF and INCESSANT ANGUISH in my heart.
Paul explains in vs 3 ..For I could wish that I myself were accursed and cut off and banished from Christ for the sake of my brethren INSTEAD of THEM. Now this was PAUL speaking. I think we can agree that Paul knew very much yet even he says he was still yearning to know only Christ and Christ crucified.
The Brethren of Paul’s flesh are not the Gentiles but the offspring to whom the promise applies. Paul’s bitter grief and incessant anguish is for the line of Isaac who have enjoyed the blessing and privileges vs 4. For THEY are Israelites, and to them belong God’s adoption and the glorious Presence. With THEM were the special covenants made, to THEM worship was revealed and promises announced. To THEM belong the patriarchs, and as far as His natural descent was concerned, from THEM is the Christ, Who is exalted and supreme over all…..
It is for THEM that Paul is in bitter grief and anguish of heart. For THEM upon whom the plagues are to come in the wrath of God.
Paul says Rom 9 : 6 It is not everybody who are made God’s children, but it is the offspring to whom the promise applies that shall be counted descendants.
We are the descendants or the ones who know more than the Gentiles and Pagans know about Christ yet we are the ones who have the beam in our eyes! Ref to Rays teaching on Repentance for a real eye opener!
It is THEM who Paul is speaking who vs 7 will be called and counted through the line of Isaac.
Paul says they will be CALLED AND COUNTED. Paul does not say they will be chosen. The called and counted are not the few and chosen. It is to the MANY that Jesus says "Depart from Me, I know you not. " Refer to Rays teaching on this very topic. It is astounding!
Paul explains that God will have Mercy on whom He will have Mercy and Compassion on whom He will have compassion. This knowledge did not erase the BITTER GRIEF and INCESSANT ANGUISH in Paul’s heart.
Paul explained Rom 9 : 14 What shall we conclude then? Is there injustice upon God’s part? Certainly NOT. ….
Moses interceded with God for His people. We know Christ does the same. Is it not the remnant that will be identified as having learnt from the OT for our admonition and following Christ for our grievous bitter cries to God for His People ?
Is this bitter grief and incessant anguish the identifying mark of the remnant that included Paul?
Rom 11 : 5 So too at the present time there is a remnant…..
Hos 6 : 1 Come and let us return to the Lord, for He has torn so that He may heal us; He has stricken so that He may bind us up.
I believe that before we can know anything we have to be humbled. Learning that we are the Beast is very humbling.
Ray's teachings do reveal that we are the Beast. There is much gravity and needful spiritual maturity and sobriety to digest Rays writings that reflect upon God's call to His People to come out of Her Mystery Babylon!
To come out is to return to the Lord for His Mercy and Compassion in full acceptance of our inability to know Him outside of His Sovereign Will.
Peace be to you
Arcturus :)
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