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Samson:
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--- Quote from: Little Joe on April 05, 2008, 09:15:35 AM ---
When I signed up for this forum, I agreed to abide by certain rules. Maybe there are some of the rules I have a little trouble agreeing with on principal (being the rebel that I am ;)), but I did agree to abide by them. It is not my forum, so I respect the rules. This is just plain being honorable.
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Hi Joe,
Actually this is all we (as moderators) ask, your take on this is both an honorable and mature approach. Ray does not say or think or believe he has a corner on the market of spiritual truth but he does have plenty of scriptural authority or witnesses if you prefer to back up the articles he has written and that is the reason this Forum was established, primarily to discuss the articles.
--- Quote from: Little Joe on April 05, 2008, 09:15:35 AM ---
With that being said, the things about Ray's teaching I disagree with, even after hours of reading his stuff (which i have done, not casually at all), I prefer to keep to myself as far as this forum goes and pursue by some other avenue.
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If you are seeking clarification or even justification for what Ray is teaching perhaps you could email him with your question/observation/disagreement, you don't have to use your name but it might help if you mention in the subject line that you are a member of the Forum, it could expedite a quick(er) response.
Thank you for you honest and thoughtful post.
Peace,
Joe
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Thankyou Joe(Hillsbororiver) for your timely advice, I like the point expressed by Little Joe about not necessarily agreeing with Ray on every point and keeping it to oneself or E-mailing him.
Sometime in the beginning of my joining this Forum, I expressed on some thread that didn't necessarily agree with Ray on every possible thing I've read, but in my case, I haven't E-mailed him on anything I may or may not disagree on, mainly because these points were of relatively minor significance to me, before joining the Forum, I came to realize that I definitely agreed on what I consider essential Scriptural Truths and that was good enough for me, it still is good enough for me.
Now I realize, Whats minor to some people is of greater importance to others. I notice on some occasions, people at this Forum debating things, that to me, don't really matter in relation to the broad spectrum of life. Usually, I don't bother to comment in posts of that nature.
I really don't have the time or desire to squabble about relatively minor viewpoints that I may or may not disagree with. My motive for joining this Forum was for upbuilding fellowship, Rays Marvelous teachings. At this point in life, I didn't think I would be joining anymore Denominations(Churches) of Christendom, as Ray has expressed in some of his E-mails to people, " I don't know of any Churches that teach The Truth. " Early on my brief time at this Forum, I only read one thing that Ray wrote about that I didn't fully agree with, but after some reflection on the subject, I said to myself, " Who Cares ", it really doesn't matter to me at this point in time.
Some of us could have decided to join another " Universalism " Site, I could have prior to finding this Site, but I guess that I wasn't satisfied enough, based on what I read, to do so, until I unexpectedly came upon this Site and decided that this Site best represents the truth contained in the scriptures, so I said to myself, this is the Church that I would like to join or fellowship and here I am.
Thanks to Joe, Little Joe, Kwelli & others for your excellent points on this Subject.
Also, Craig and Dennis too, Your Bother, Samson.
joyful1:
;D ::::::checking the mirror!::::::
gmik:
Wow. I am humbled by this thread!!! Joy move over, so I can fit! ;)
Guys, you all raise great points and truths. I have been on here over 2 years. I mainly come here for fellowship among like believers. I don't want to get taught on anything! I read Ray and the Bible for that!! However, I can't remember all the thousands of pages that Ray has written---sooooooo, posters here REMIND me of the scriptures, constantly. I love that. I love the questions of newbies bcz I need to read the answers again. I love the silliness of some of the threads on the other board. It hurts when some leave. I too have noticed the pattern that Joe spoke of. The ebb and flow.
Anyhow, for me, I love this place, and I just skip or not comment on the debating/nit picking. There are too many other good threads.
Happy Sunday to all of you! God is Good. Amen and Amen!!!
Samson:
Thankyou Gmik,
Thankyou for that post, it's similiar to my perspective, I'm not interested in some big debate, it's emotionally tiring for me and it doesn't build me up. I know that it's a worn out statement, but THIS LIFE IS TOO SHORT. With all of this in mind, recently, I removed one of my own posts, because I made reference to a former relation and decided, What if they eventually to this Site and view that comment, it might discourage them and distract them from Ray's teachings and I didn't want to be apart of that. I like the testimonies, some of the discussion on the E-mails Ray receives. I try to wait to see where a post is going, before I jump in, when I first joined this Forum, I would respond really Early in that particular thread. I guess what I'm saying, I've had enough stress throughout my life and I don't want to add to it. Also, I have alot of reading of Ray's Bible studies and Audios to listen and digest, alot of reviewing and to God for understanding and allowing me to make proper application. In my former religion, we thought we knew it all about the Scriptures and appparently, I didn't.
Thanks again, Gmik.
gmik:
No problem.
You are right LIFE IS TOOOOOOO SHORT!
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