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John the Baptist Offended?
Martinez:
--- Quote from: ciy on April 25, 2008, 11:45:22 AM ---John 4:2
2(Though Jesus himself baptized not, but his disciples,)
Is this saying that Jesus baptised his disciples only? Something to ponder.
On the John the Baptist subject, I go back to Ray's Spiritual Truth #8 and realize John is me. The process of being saved, that Ray states is "the hardest thing we will ever do in this age", has the phase in it where you are still in bondage to the ruler of this world. You think you have found Jesus and everything is going to be great from that moment on and every day seems to be worst than the day before. You get to thinking is this really the truth? Is this the true Christ? When this happens you need encouragement and a reminder that Christ coming is spiritual food. Christ's coming is not meat and potatoes and every comfort of this world. The world stays the same your perspective of the world changes, but it is a process and will not be complete until you have had your head cut off so that you can then have the mind of Christ. And this will happen over and over until the end comes.
Remember Christ is crucified in Golgotha, in the skull, which is in your head. He is raised in a garden which again is the garden of your mind where the first Adam was created. That naked first Adam is no longer in the garden, but the risen Christ who is now the gardener of the garden and is clothed in white linen.
Sorry for the rambling which is probably not important to anyone but it is the direction my mind goes when I ponder such things.
CIY
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Hey there CIY,
This is a great post!
Matt:
Thanks all!
I have read over these verses so many times without realizing any of this.
I guess I still have Hollywood's interpretation of many biblical people in my head :o
It is great to be able to come here without fear of ridicule or rejection :)
Matt
hillsbororiver:
Hi Matt,
I agree. many fine responses here in this thread. The bottom line is that there was no one at all who understood what the mission of Christ would ultimately be, it is quite apparent that the disciples and multitudes that followed Him believed He was here to establish an earthly kingdom.
There is nothing that I can see where John knew or believed any differently, even Peter did not know what the Lord's true mission was, he (Peter) was blinded by the conventional wisdom of the day where the reward/kingdom was in the flesh here on the physical earth (kind of like what many churches promote).
Coincidently (?) we have this shown in the Book of Matthew;
Mat 16:21 From that time forth began Jesus to show unto his disciples, how that he must go unto Jerusalem, and suffer many things of the elders and chief priests and scribes, and be killed, and be raised again the third day.
Mat 16:22 Then Peter took him, and began to rebuke him, saying, Be it far from thee, Lord: this shall not be unto thee.
Mat 16:23 But he turned, and said unto Peter, Get thee behind me, Satan: thou art an offense unto me: for thou savorest not the things that be of God, but those that be of men.
His Peace to you,
Joe
Deborah-Leigh:
Hey Joe
That caution to NOT savour the things, thoughts, conclusions, ideas, interpretations and beliefs of mankind, which are manifestations of Satans personality.....well THAT is very important and the visual evidence of this manifested approval based society, is all around us.
I notice that your posts number 3010 as do mine at this posting. Just an observation....no competition, not a prediction and no imaginations but maybe this is a time and date....Will have to see...The Kingdom of God is at hand :)
Peace to you Brother
Arc
mharrell08:
Hello All:
The one thing I did not see within anyone's post was a spiritual match! From Spiritual Truth #7 of the 12 God-given truths to understanding His Word is to "compare spiritual with spiritual". But when looking through scriptures for a match as "no scripture is of its own interpetation", this scripture goes hand and hand with what most of you posted anyways.
Matt. 13:21
Yet hath he not root in himself, but dureth for a while: for when tribulation or persecution ariseth because of the word, by and by he is offended
I was thinking this is a great thread but the thought came to me yesterday that there was not a scriptural & spiritual match posted. I think everyone's response though lined up with this scriptural truth nonetheless. If I am off based and just missed the match please forgive me "for I know not what I do" ;D
Marques
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