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Free Will Again
Redbird:
Dear Roy,
It is not a boast by no means. I say this to share that God still loves their children even in times of weakness.
Peace and Love, Lisa
Falconn003:
Be blessed God has willed you the better, stronger Parent and your childern are proof positive of that Grace bestowed upon your family, whereas the other childern you spoke of are products of poor/weak/lazy parenting period.
The future looks very promising for your Daughter who has abstain from temption, of course that is if she is truthful with you.
My 2 sons and 2 nephews, who were staying with me at the time, told me all the wonderfull things, how they stayed away from the bad, my suspicions told me otherwise, and unfurtunatly i was correct.
I laid down an ultimatum, 3 went back to thier mothers and my youngest at the time stayed, to this day he is the most muture one , graduate on time, made me a grand pa, has a very good job and is now heading into College. The others are now finnally coming around, after so much of thier trial and error, they see what it takes to live in this mercilous world.
After much, much, life lessons, on how they should value thier INDEPENDENCE, and not be dependent on anything such as drugs, welfare, pity, parents ....ect. FINNALLY they now see and thier future is brighter.
Peace
Rodger
Roy Monis:
--- Quote from: Redbird on June 18, 2008, 06:09:26 AM ---Dear Roy,
It is not a boast by no means. I say this to share that God still loves their children even in times of weakness.
Peace and Love, Lisa
--- End quote ---
Dear Lisa
I agree with you that God loves His children even with their weaknesses , we all have those and I still have plenty, in all probability more than you but we must not be complacent about it. In love He even died for us regardless of our sins. Should we be complacent and continue sinning? “For God so loved the world, that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him shall not perish, but have eternal life." (Jn.3:16).
We are admonished by God to overcome and that means to fight these flaws and encourage others and not languish in the knowledge that God loves us regardless. At one time I couldn't pass a pub without a strong urge to call in. At one time I couldn't go out the house without tapping my pockets to see whether I got my cigarettes and matches as one dangled from between my lips.
Where would I be today if I'd sat back those 40 years past and said "Oh well God loves me regardless." No I had to challenge it and with God's help I succeeded, without it I just could not and that not for want of trying. And I tried with all the will in the world, so it goes to show how strong man's supposed free will really is, does it not?
I'm not criticizing or being judgmental, just trying to help because I know what you're having to deal with so I'm sharing my experience with you and praying that God will help you and all my fellow travelers to kick those filthy habits. It is not love to subject your family and neighbours to the dangers of passive smoking which can be every bit as harmful to their health as it is to yours.
God bless you sister in our joint walk in Christ.
Love in Christ Jesus.
Roy UK
winner08:
I was thinking earlier, and I came to the conclusion that one can only beleive we either have free will or we don't have free will. We can't beleive we have some free will and God has some will over us. either we do or we just don't. If I beleive I have free will then that changes everthing I beleive now. Ifd I beleive Gpd is in total controll of EVERYTHING There is no way that I can be in control of anything. God would have to change His plan for us every second of every day. With 6billion people who have free will God would not beable to get anything done. If we had free will then we could chose God's way are the devil's way. Then they would probable have a hand full of people who would actually be saved. Most of us would go the other way. As you see I included myself it this theroy, because I don't have a strong enough will to do God's will. I need help. Then if you beleive we have free will then you also must beleive we have to choose good or evil and since we all fall short of the glory of God and we can not enter the Kingdom unless we are born again of the spirit they would have to be a place where the people who fell short had to go in order to be punnish. That would be hell . Now of corse we would have to have something so pressious that it would kill us to hurt it or cause it harm and that would be our immortal soul. Now this would be the ultiment punnishment. Our immortal soul burnning for ever and ever in hell. This is what the man made christian doctrain teaches us. So I can not beleive in my heart of hearts that I have free will. If I was to beleive that then I would have to beleive in all the other nonsence in just spoke about here. Sorry for rattling on. Me and my friend also had this conversation today. It got a little heated.
Darren
EKnight:
My husband won't give up his "free will" and I am constantly trying to show him he doesn't have any such thing. So the other night I said to him, "do you think you could go 24 hrs without sinning( I clarified and said by using your "free will')?" he thought about it and thought about it but never really answered. I told him there was absolutely no way he could do it. No one but Jesus has never sinned and he (my husband) couldn't even do it for 24 hrs. I think that's a pretty good scenario to present to "free willers".
Eileen
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