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Roy Monis:
--- Quote from: indianabob on June 25, 2008, 10:08:51 PM ---Kathy and moderators,
Please don't close or lock this thread until I can reread and copy the pertinent comments.
There is quite a bit to stimulate my self examination and I dread losing it.
Thank you, Indianabob :)
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Hi! Indianabob
Thank you for your support, because I believe there is a mountain of truth in this which is not being brought into the light and exposed and then being attacked with the power of the SPIRIT. It frightened the life out of me as it applies to me as does to all who have read it. It is the unavoidable truth and the truth always hurts. But the message I received has been delivered and my conscience is clear, but I still face the difficult task of OVERCOMING.
In closing my defense just posted I left out an essential part of Ray's inspired word;
Where I ended my defense with; "But now there are two within us The Spirit and the enemy's agent "I" the beast within, also Ray's teaching which I wouldn't have known about had it not been for him. But the Spirit within is powerless to deal with the "I" which belongs to Satan on the outside until it is brought into the light where he can be seen. It is now when he is exposed that we must gird ourselves with the Armour provided by God and attack the "I" and OVERCOME him." (Rev.2:7,11,17,26) (Rev.3:5,12,21). I should have ended with God's promise to Eve; "And I will put enmity Between you and the woman, And between your seed and her seed; He shall bruise you on the head, And you shall bruise him on the heel.” (Gen.3:15). The SPIRIT would bruise (CRUSH Ray's word) Satan's head the "I".
God bless you sister and thank you for your support in our joint walk in Christ.
Love in Christ Jesus.
Roy UK
hillsbororiver:
--- Quote from: Beloved on June 26, 2008, 07:04:09 AM ---his post has been enlightening to me. We come to the forum to fellowship. Yet here we some acting like James and John ....looking to be first.
Gal 5:13 For, brethren, ye have been called unto liberty; only use not liberty for an occasion to the flesh, but by love serve one another.
Joh 12:26 If any man serve me, let him follow me; and where I am, there shall also my servant be: if any man serve me, him will my Father honor.
I agree on some level we are all struggling with answering the question posited. Many posters have made some excellent points. Others seem to be struggling more with Roy. because he seems to be playing a quessing game. The way I see it that he is trying to provoke us to really thinking about this subject.
Those in the "church" are like kids saying .....yes we love you daddy....but their actions speak louder.
What do our actions show? Can we be patient with each other, can we be kind and trusting.
Okay folks I will go first...I am mushey gushey and I am not sure why Dewey posted his comments here rather than on the thread which he started and where he feels he was slighted.
If any of us have a problem with another PM or post it. If you post it you can embarress the other ......do you want to do that? (by the way Dewey I was not one bit upset, in fact I marvel that you held all that that in so long.)
On the other hand we have to be able to take criticisms...being rejected is also part of the training program. Those snide remarks that are some times are made .....hurt....and we have all had them and given them. Sometimes we all need to take a break, rest in the Lord and study the Word more before we can come together.
Second none of us seem to be getting the answer Roy is looking for and we are feeling frustrated and challenged. I know my own posts did not have depth, I wasn't trying to 'get' the answer I was putting a puzzle piece down. I really enjoyed seeing all the different perspectives and hope people will continue to think about it.
This is Robert Frost shortest poem
"We sit in a circle and suppose but the answer sits in the middle and knows".
The Answer is God and His Son Jesus Christ...we are all sitting here with little bits of information. Flotsom and jetsom
2Co 13:11 Finally, brethren, farewell. Be perfect, be of good comfort, be of one mind, live in peace; and the God of love and peace shall be with you.
Rom 15:6 That ye may with one mind and one mouth glorify God, even the Father of our Lord Jesus Christ.
In closing like Gina once said...we gotta play nice...
So true......especially if we children of God want to become the sons of God
Beloved
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Hi Beloved,
All I can add to this is a big AMEN!
Thank you,
Joe
Roy Monis:
--- Quote from: hillsbororiver on June 26, 2008, 07:20:02 AM ---
--- Quote from: Beloved on June 26, 2008, 07:04:09 AM ---his post has been enlightening to me. We come to the forum to fellowship. Yet here we some acting like James and John ....looking to be first.
Gal 5:13 For, brethren, ye have been called unto liberty; only use not liberty for an occasion to the flesh, but by love serve one another.
Joh 12:26 If any man serve me, let him follow me; and where I am, there shall also my servant be: if any man serve me, him will my Father honor.
I agree on some level we are all struggling with answering the question posited. Many posters have made some excellent points. Others seem to be struggling more with Roy. because he seems to be playing a quessing game. The way I see it that he is trying to provoke us to really thinking about this subject.
Those in the "church" are like kids saying .....yes we love you daddy....but their actions speak louder.
What do our actions show? Can we be patient with each other, can we be kind and trusting.
Okay folks I will go first...I am mushey gushey and I am not sure why Dewey posted his comments here rather than on the thread which he started and where he feels he was slighted.
If any of us have a problem with another PM or post it. If you post it you can embarress the other ......do you want to do that? (by the way Dewey I was not one bit upset, in fact I marvel that you held all that that in so long.)
On the other hand we have to be able to take criticisms...being rejected is also part of the training program. Those snide remarks that are some times are made .....hurt....and we have all had them and given them. Sometimes we all need to take a break, rest in the Lord and study the Word more before we can come together.
Second none of us seem to be getting the answer Roy is looking for and we are feeling frustrated and challenged. I know my own posts did not have depth, I wasn't trying to 'get' the answer I was putting a puzzle piece down. I really enjoyed seeing all the different perspectives and hope people will continue to think about it.
This is Robert Frost shortest poem
"We sit in a circle and suppose but the answer sits in the middle and knows".
The Answer is God and His Son Jesus Christ...we are all sitting here with little bits of information. Flotsom and jetsom
2Co 13:11 Finally, brethren, farewell. Be perfect, be of good comfort, be of one mind, live in peace; and the God of love and peace shall be with you.
Rom 15:6 That ye may with one mind and one mouth glorify God, even the Father of our Lord Jesus Christ.
In closing like Gina once said...we gotta play nice...
So true......especially if we children of God want to become the sons of God
Beloved
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Hi Beloved,
All I can add to this is a big AMEN!
Thank you,
Joe
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Dear Beloved, you're speaking my words, dear sister, you're speaking my words and they bring tears to my eyes. Thank you and Joe. This Word has been pressing on me so long that now that it is out it is such an enormous relief that you wouldn't believe it if I told you. I pray God limits His messages to me because they are truly heavy burdens. Ezekiel must have gone through hell and that's putting it mildly.
God bless you brother and sister in our joint walk in Christ.
Love in Christ Jesus.
Roy UK
hillsbororiver:
--- Quote from: Roy Monis UK on June 26, 2008, 08:22:08 AM ---
This Word has been pressing on me so long that now that it is out it is such an enormous relief that you wouldn't believe it if I told you. I pray God limits His messages to me because they are truly heavy burdens.
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Ecc 1:18 For in much wisdom is much grief: and he that increaseth knowledge increaseth sorrow.
Hi Roy,
The more we are given eyes to see the more we are capable of seeing things about ourselves and the world that are truly distressing. Even as we rejoice in His Word once we digest it there comes a bitterness in our (carnal) gut that is undeniable.
Rev 10:9 And I went unto the angel and said unto him, Give me the little book. And he said unto me, Take it and eat it up; and it shall make thy belly bitter, but it shall be in thy mouth sweet as honey.
Peace,
Joe
OBrenda:
I also agree with Beloved and some of the Others, I have enjoyed this post, and have received much out of it.
I perceive Roy's genuine enthusiasm to share, his cup runith over. He is encouraging us to think deeper on a very important foundation, Do We Love God??
In his enthusiasm he may have been short in his comments to some, but isn't this similar to Ray's style/personality?
Haven't we read many emails to Ray that take offence to his manner, and miss the point entirely?
I hope you will forgive me, cuz I am a Babe here, and I don't want to overstep my bounds. But I would like to point out a scripture that Kat posted above, and hope everybody meditates on it: Are we not still carnal if there is envy and strife and divisions among us???
Should we not in this forum be able to......Speak the Truth in Love? And give GRACE to those when struggling to understand an area that is difficult? Consider that we are all still being brought from Glory to Glory, that we are still learning Line upon line, precept upon precept. When we stick our Flag in what we believe today, we are no longer teachable and will stop growing in the knowledge of Him.
That is not to say we don't have a sure Foundation.
If Ray or anyone else expresses opposition to someones belief, they are not attacking the persons character, they are challenging only a "belief/thought". SO if we take our ego/carnal mind out this we will not be so easily offended. Having said that we should always check ourselves before we respond, that we are coming from the Spirit of His Love.
IMVHO
P.S. I also questioned the parable of the tares being possibly our carnial nature recently on another post.
(you can see Kat's answer from Ray's teaching)
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