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Hell, Satan's Heaven?
Robin:
--- Quote ---Why would anyone want to go out of their way to prove that eternal is in the bible just to defend the doctrine of eternal punishment?
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--- Quote ---But why oh why would ANYONE want that to be true?
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That nails it doesn't it?
Luke 6:
27"But I tell you who hear me: Love your enemies, do good to those who hate you, 28bless those who curse you, pray for those who mistreat you.
Chris R:
Satan was made perfectly for the purpose in which he was created, The Apostle Paul knew this when he said "deliver such an one unto Satan for the destruction of the flesh, that the spirit may be saved in the day of the Lord Jesus". Without such a creation How is it that men can receive salvation?
Why was it that Paul, had a messenger of SATAN sent to "buffet" him? If not for his ultimate Good?
Satan is nothing more than what God made him, and God made him perfectly for the job!
It is God who formed the crooked serpent, It is God who created Evil, I [God] form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the LORD do all these [things].
But oh Lord who has believed our report?
Few indeed....
Peace
Chris R
OBrenda:
I guess they see Satan as a God, have they considered he may be able to win?
(Now that would be Scary) If Satan can't win his idea of stealing souls, why doesn't God just crush him now?
This is an amazing scripture, is the destruction of the flesh physical death, or is it chastisment?
--- Quote from: Chris R on June 25, 2008, 07:05:30 PM ---Satan was made perfectly for the purpose in which he was created, The Apostle Paul knew this when he said "deliver such an one unto Satan for the destruction of the flesh, that the spirit may be saved in the day of the Lord Jesus". Without such a creation How is it that men can receive salvation?
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Kat:
Hi Joe,
It's all so ironic what the church teaches. They have it all turned around, upside down and backwards.
God is sovereign... but He can not save His own creation...
God is totally love... but He will sent most of humanity to burn for all eternity...
God is all powerful... but Satan has totally thwarted His plan...
God is all knowing... but we have free will so He doesn't know for sure what we will do...
They have been caused to believe all of these untruths, they are deceived!
Rev 12:9 And the great dragon was cast out, the ancient serpent called Adversary and Satan, who is deceiving the whole inhabited earth... (CLV)
Do the deceived know they are deceived, of course not.
John 1:5 And the light shines in the darkness, and the darkness did not comprehend it.
So until this blinded deceived church age is over, until the return of Jesus Christ, we just have to hold on to the truth we have been given. Because the day will come when all eyes shall be opened.
Isa 35:4 Say to those who have an anxious heart, "Be strong; fear not! Behold, your God will come with vengeance, with the recompense of God. He will come and save you."
v.5 Then the eyes of the blind shall be opened, and the ears of the deaf unstopped;
mercy, peace and love
Kat
Martinez:
What really bugs me about it is how obvious it is that Christ hates hypocrisy, but while you assert that hell is reall you accuse Christ of being a hypocrite!
Mat 5:44 But I say unto you, Love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them which despitefully use you, and persecute you;
Mat 5:45 That ye may be the children of your Father which is in heaven: for he maketh his sun to rise on the evil and on the good, and sendeth rain on the just and on the unjust.
Mat 5:46 For if ye love them which love you, what reward have ye? do not even the publicans the same?
Mat 5:47 And if ye salute your brethren only, what do ye more than others? do not even the publicans so?
Mat 5:48 Be ye therefore perfect, even as your Father which is in heaven is perfect.
If you point out a verse like this to them and say, this is how God treats His enemies, they usually just turn around and say, no, that's just for you to follow so He show you mercy at "The Judgment".
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