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I kinda wish part 2 of the Lake of Fire series was the first part
Paul:
--- Quote from: KristaD on August 04, 2008, 03:09:56 PM ---I like that you question things ;).
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:)
Roy Monis:
--- Quote from: Paul on August 04, 2008, 03:28:20 PM ---
--- Quote from: KristaD on August 04, 2008, 03:09:56 PM ---I like that you question things ;).
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:)
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Sorry Paul!
"I like that you question things" quoted by KristaD is not quite correct. It is the wrong place to question things, the correct place comes under the heading "Email Ray" That's where youe questions should go not where they are being posted. Marques is correct in his admonishment of your behavior.
I say this in love.
God bless you brother in our joint walk in Christ.
Love in Christ Jesus.
Roy UK
Paul:
--- Quote from: Roy Monis UK on August 04, 2008, 03:41:10 PM ---Marques is correct in his admonishment of your behavior.
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I don't feel that way.
--- Quote from: mharrell08 on August 04, 2008, 12:40:00 PM ---Why do you always have a problem with the way Ray teaches?
Almost every post you start, it is about a problem with the way Ray presents a different aspect of his teaching.
You state that you are not trying to start a debate, but almost all of your threads start off debating Ray's method of teaching.
And that is what all your threads are really about....how you believe Ray's teachings are flawed and can be improved.
And you have the nerve to try to get BT forum members to jump on your bandwagon. If you didn't believe they were flawed, you wouldn't keep trying to post threads nit-picking Ray's writing.
No man (including Ray) is perfect, but you really need to take some time and reflect on what your real motivation is with all these threads you start.
...maybe this will change your way of thinking and doing the things you have been doing on this forum.
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KristaD:
You can hardly say whether or not I am correct in saying that I like anything. Perhaps this is the wrong place fro him to do it, I made no statement about that, only that I like that he questions things. Please don't say that I am incorrect in stating that I like something. That is not a judgment that anyone is qualified to make unless they know what is in my heart. I respect your opinion, Roy, but once again I feel singled out an judged by you.
Sirach:
@Paul,
When i started to read what Ray had to say, i was shocked...shocked to tears, confused, scared....you understand my meaning. What happened to me is that i could not stop reading, and i didnt go A to B .. i read it all randomly. You know what drives me the most...THRUTH...THRUTH is what drives me...i dont care what people say, what people do, but i am searching for biblical thruth...what is our Creator, our God saying in his Word...that is what i want to know...doctrines, dogma's, traditions...i really dont give a rats behind.
I have read a lot in my life..sites and books....so many opinions, so many views...it got me spinning. When i started on this website, i also had the feeling like...Well..here we have one again...becos it was so utterly going against today's teachings..i really tought...just another cult.
But after reading the first chapter...and i dont know wich one it was....i could not stop reading...and you know Paul...i have learned more in 3 months then in 20 year going to church....and the biggest thing i really learned is..IM CLAY...and I LOVE IT...and i learned that the Gospel REALLY is the Gospel of men being clay.
God will choose his people, the ones who will rule with our Lord Jesus, and judge the rest of humanity in rightenousness.
I think the point is not where you start reading...i think the point is understanding and admitting and accepting who you are...Clay...clay in the hands of your Creator, Clay in the hands of the only One who is looking after your well being...but He does it in His way, and for all humanity.
I was tought hell was for ever....but after reading some of Ray's teachings, i checked if it was right..i bought a translation of the old testament from Hebrew into Dutch wich the Jewish community also uses...and not ever is hell being mentioned in the old testament..i talked with people who know of the old testament a lot..and they confirmed that Jews do not believe in an eternal hellfire.
My advise to you...pray for open ears, pray for an enlightened mind, search for thruth, God's thruth....and where you begin reading will not have any effect on the biblacal facts wich you can learn from bible-thruths.....and most...give yourself up....be clay.
Gods blessings.
Sirach
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