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Gods laws of health and nutrition - where in Scipture?
KristaD:
--- Quote from: Linny on August 14, 2008, 04:17:47 PM ---I am right there with you Carol on the people making a fortune in the nutritional area just like in the medical field as money seems to change everything once greed comes in. I don't follow any one person or put my trust in supplements. I use some supplements but I think food is the best medicine. Like I said, we went from vegan to vegetarian to balanced.
And Craig, having studied the history of disease, I don't give the medical establishment credit for the wiping out of disease any longer. Diseases run their course and God is the One who designed humans to build natural immunities and push out these killers. Vaccines were always introduced AFTER the disease had began to disappear. I've seen the charts. Polio was even re-defined to make it look like the polio vaccine worked. Like I said, and like Anthony said, question everything and question it until you get to the truth. If money is involved, question.
George Carlin said, ""The consensus reality is often intentionally misleading." I still highly recommend the paper I mentioned in another post, WHY AMERICANS WILL BELIEVE ALMOST ANYTHING. Just because it is the consensus, doesn't make it true. I apply this to every single man-made institution.
If I were in an accident, find me a doctor! If I am sick, I am the doctor.
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Couldn't agree with this more!! :D
Craig:
--- Quote ---And Craig, having studied the history of disease, I don't give the medical establishment credit for the wiping out of disease any longer. Diseases run their course and God is the One who designed humans to build natural immunities and push out these killers. Vaccines were always introduced AFTER the disease had began to disappear. I've seen the charts. Polio was even re-defined to make it look like the polio vaccine worked
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I have studied the histories of disease and it comes down to who you are going to believe. I have seen the charts you mentioned and their data is error (no, not err it is lies.) An error would be a mistake, a lie makes up data to fit a preconceived outcome. And everyone does it. I agree the God is in charge of all that happens, he also gives the medical scientists the knowledge to develop ways to fight disease. I agree that the medical establishment has its problems and money is driving much of what we have, and we should always question our doctors and develop treatment that is right for us. I also know that the people preaching against the "establishment" also make a fortune and have turned their crusade into a religion, and like to spread fear and doubt.
You are fortunate to have a family with good health. What would you do if suddenly a child became type 1 diabetic? If you don't use the gift of insulin that God provided to medicine then I'm afraid your child would die. And don't tell me that there is a "natural cure", there is not one legitimate documented cased of a natural cure to type 1 diabetes recorded. But there are many hucksters on the web promoting their "natural cure" and claiming a cure. Not long ago in the news, some parents let their child die of type 1 diabetes because their religion taught them that prayer was the only treatment they needed. A .50 cent shot of insulin would have saved her life. With all that said however, God could heal if he so desires.
If tomorrow, suddenly, a vaccine came out that protected against cancer 99% of the time would we take it?
Everyone should use our common sense on what treatments we take, if we have a disease with a sure science cure, would we decide to take our chances eating seaweed and getting rid of chemicals in our homes or take the medicine and get well? I'm not knocking taking care of what we put in our bodies, but being militant about these lifestyle choices becomes an "idol of the heart" God is in charge, I can show you people who were vegans and anal about what they eat and what they let near them and they die of lung cancer at 35 years of age. I can also introduce you to a woman I know who is 96 years young and a 2 pack a day smoker since her twenties, she drinks and exercise is not in her vocabulary. God is the one who numbers our days, not us.
I do believe money for research is limited because companies spend the money on treatments of disease instead of curing disease. There is not as much to be made in a cure.
And one other point I would like to make is this, rich people die of disease the same as the poor. If there was a cure for disease and the pharmaceuticals are keeping it from us, then the CEO's of these companies and their families would not be dieing of disease the same as the rest of us, but they do. People who preach natural only cures should live to be at least 80, but they don't. God is in charge and numbers our days.
If you don't believe that medicine hasn't helped to eradicate the diseases I mentioned, then I guess I am now................ speechless.
Craig
Linny:
My sources are not anti-medical, they are medical researchers with dates and facts.
Pharma scientists don't look for cures, they look for treatments for symptoms and a way to make a billion dollars before they get sued.
I have no fear of my children becoming type 1 anything. The childhood diseases of today were rare to none when I was a child. What's different? Medical intervention. A new drugstore on every corner. A new vaccine for everything.
We will have to agree to disagree. ;)
Peace,
Linny
KristaD:
--- Quote from: Linny on August 14, 2008, 05:58:31 PM ---My sources are not anti-medical, they are medical researchers with dates and facts.
Pharma scientists don't look for cures, they look for treatments for symptoms and a way to make a billion dollars before they get sued.
I have no fear of my children becoming type 1 anything. The childhood diseases of today were rare to none when I was a child. What's different? Medical intervention. A new drugstore on every corner. A new vaccine for everything.
We will have to agree to disagree. ;)
Peace,
Linny
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What else is different? McDonalds 3x a week, preservatives in everything, food dyes, high fructose corn syrup.... I could go on. The fact is the health of america is declining as americans get further away from a natural lifestyle and natural foods.
Jackie Lee:
I attempt to eat as healthy as possible but has anyone seen this video?
http://www.metacafe.com/watch/447498/youll_never_eat_pork_again/
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