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Here is a good question to Ray from someone
AK4:
HEY MR.SMITH MY NAME IS SGT ____. AND I AM CURENTLY IN IRAQ RIGHT NOW I'M DOING
> OK. I WILL BE HERE FOR A WHILE THOUGH BUT ANYWAYS I STUMBLED ON YOUR SITE WHILE
> OVER HERE AND STARTED TO READ AND THE THINGS THAT YOU MENTION AND TALK ABOUT ARE JUST SO UNBELIEVABLE. I WANT TO THANK YOU FOR OPENING MY EYES AND UNDERSTANDING
> TO THESE "BIBLE TRUTHS". I HAVE BEEN DOIN MY OWN RESEARCH AS WELL AND I HAVE A
> COUPLE OF QUESTION ACTUALLY FIRST BEING. HOW DO YOU NORMALLY GO ABOUT YOUR
> RESEARCH MAYBE YOU CAN GIVE ME SOME IDEAS TO HELP ME GO ABOUT MINE. SECOND
> QUESTION IS FROM WHAT I READ ON YOUR SITE THE CHOSEN PEOPLE OF GOD ARE
> RESURECTED AND THE 1ST RESERECTION. EVERYONE ELSE IS RESERECTED AT THE SECOND
> RESERECTION. BUT WHAT HAPPENS TO THE PEOPLE ON EARTH THAT ARE STILL ALIVE THAT
> DID NOT OR DO NOT BELIEVE AFTER THE FIRST RESERECTION ALREADY TOOK PLACE? DO
> THEY ALL EVENTUALLY DIE T HEN COMES THE SECOND RESERECTION? IF YOU CAN
> UNDERSTAND MY QUESTION. BASICLY WHAT IS THE ORDER OF EVENTS THAT WILL HAPPEN TO GOD'S CHOSEN AND THE SINNERS BOTH DEAD AND ALIVE? I HOPE THAT SOUNDS BETTER
> WELL THANKS FOR YOU TIME. HOPE TO HEAR FROM YOU SOON.
Dear Sgt. : I mostly ask God to show me His truths as I read the Scriptures. Most of the time my mind is opened to a specific truth, which I then explain from those Scriptures themselves. Also, I often go to my Concordance and different translations to help verify for my readers, that which I see is truly Scriptural. I have a dozen different translations, Strong's Exhaustive Concordance of the Bible, Wigram's Englishman's Greek and Hebrew Concordance, a Bible dictionary, and that's about it. I have "e-Sword" on my computer for quick location of any word in the Bible. I do not learn what I teach out of books. But I do use books often to help verify what God is showing me.
As for your question on the resurrections and the purpose for humanity during Christ's reign, etc., I will have to pass on that one. It may sound like a simple question, but let me assure you, it is not. I know of no religion or writings on earth that can explain correctly what you are asking. I will be writing on this in the future, but not today, as it would take days to answer that question properly for you, and as I receive tens of thousands of emails, it just isn't possible. Hope you understand.
God be with you, and may God look after you in your mission in Iraq.
Ray
Since Ray didnt answer his question, anybody have an answer?
OBrenda:
I wouldn't be able to give answer, but I'm anxious to read what Ray has to say!
:)
Brenda
lilitalienboi16:
Their is no "second" ressurection, i'm fairly certain this is not in the oldest of greek manuscripts and ray actualy mentioned saying he had prayed about this for many nights unable to reconcile the thought, but now he understands. Their is one ressurection.
God bless,
Alex
Kat:
Hi Alex,
Here is what you were referring to that Ray mentioned from the 2007 conference.
http://forums.bible-truths.com/index.php/topic,5815.15.html -----
Now for the last few years I’ve been looking at all these things, about the return of Christ, the millennium and the kingdom and all these things. I haven’t written to much about that yet. You know why? Because I don’t understand it! But now I’m getting there and here is a Scripture in Revelation.
Rev 20:2 And he laid hold on the dragon, that old serpent, who is the Devil and Satan, and bound him a thousand years.
v. 3 And he cast him into the bottomless pit (abyss), and shut him up and set a seal on him, that he should deceive the nations no more until the thousand years should be fulfilled. And after that he must be loosed a little season.
That verse gives me a problem, it would take a long time to explain why. Believe me most people that teach and write books on these prophecies, don’t have a clue. Not only do they not have the answers, they don’t even know what the problems are.
But these verses here;
Rev 20:4 …And they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years.
v. 5 But the rest of the dead did not live again until the thousand years were finished. This is the first resurrection.
Both of these verses can not be true, there is a problem here. I racked my brain, in my spare time, but I kept it in the back of my mind for a long time. There is a problem, that won’t work and I can’t make it work. It doesn’t fit, there is no way to make this thing fit. Then some months ago, now I know why it, “But the rest of the dead did not live again until the thousand years were finished” won’t fit. It’s not Scripture! Tischendorf has it right there.
-Rev. 20:5 But the rest of the dead lived not again until the thousand years were finished
It’s not in the Sinaiticus. So I said, okay now we’re moving again. We’re a little closer to the Truth.
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mercy, peace and love
Kat
winner08:
Wait a minute. I am really confused now. I always thought that the elect would be in the first resurrection. Then they would be with Christ through the thousand yrs. They would help Christ set up His government here on earth. Then the great white throne judgment would come. All that that was not in the 1st resurrection would be in this resurrection Wait it just came to me Could it be that everybody will be raised at one time then those who are found to be the elect would go in one direction and rule with Christ for a thousand yrs. then the rest that are left would be thrown into the lake of fire and all the carnilty of man will be purged from us, all of our human nature ,all of our sins, our evil thoughts, our evil hearts. So no there wouldn't be a second resurrection. The Great White Throne Judgment wouldd come after the 1000 yrs. Depending on how many stripes we are to recieve is how long we will be in that LOF. Each man will recieve his stripes according to what he has done
Darren
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