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I Corinthians 15:40
rocky:
--- Quote from: chrissiela ---Do we have to be resurrected WITH that death... or just the KNOWLEDGE of it? Being made AWARE of the fact that we WERE dead?
Chrissie
--- End quote ---
It has to be destroyed, in the fire; so I would thiink that it has to be a part of us?
But good question.
chrissiela:
You don't enter the fire until after you have been given 'life', right? Isn't that the case with those being judged NOW?
Oh wait... I see what you are saying.... those who are being judged now - having that 'carnal' nature burned out of them are still IN THE FLESH, IN "this body of death"
I see what you are asking now.... sorry about that!!
I still sort of think of it as our 'nature' and not 'tied' to the FLESH, per say. THE FLESH profits NOTHING. It is our MIND that is being purged and purified, not our bodies.
Let me think on it some more, now that I think I understand better what you are asking.
Chrissie
rocky:
--- Quote from: chrissiela ---You don't enter the fire until after you have been given 'life', right? Isn't that the case with those being judged NOW?
Oh wait... I see what you are saying.... those who are being judged now - having that 'carnal' nature burned out of them are still IN THE FLESH, IN "this body of death"
I see what you are asking now.... sorry about that!!
I still sort of think of it as our 'nature' and not 'tied' to the FLESH, per say. THE FLESH profits NOTHING. It is our MIND that is being purged and purified, not our bodies.
Let me think on it some more, now that I think I understand better what you are asking.
Chrissie
--- End quote ---
yeah, i think u see what is confusing me. I just don't see how the carnal mind (yes to me that is what needs purging/destroyed) can exist without a flesh body as in Genesis 2 (soul=body plus spirit/breath).
If raised to life, a quickening spirit, then mind of Christ we should have???
chrissiela:
If that were the case, though, wouldn't it be true even now. If all it took was being 'given life' then wouldn't we instantly have the mind of Christ as soon as Christ revealed Himself to us - evenwhile IN the flesh. Surely the mind of Christ can overcome even the flesh, right?
It would probably KILL us if we went straight from DEATH to the "perfect man"... :lol: :lol:
He's got to wake us up SLOWLY!!! :wink:
Chrissie
rocky:
--- Quote from: chrissiela ---If that were the case, though, wouldn't it be true even now. If all it took was being 'given life' then wouldn't we instantly have the mind of Christ as soon as Christ revealed Himself to us - evenwhile IN the flesh. Surely the mind of Christ can overcome even the flesh, right?
It would probably KILL us if we went straight from DEATH to the "perfect man"... :lol: :lol:
He's got to wake us up SLOWLY!!! :wink:
Chrissie
--- End quote ---
those are good questions, ones i struggle with? but i can't seem to shed this thot that our carnal mind is seperate from the soilish man, one that satan feeds on (eat dust).
I have thot to myself, well satan is carnal, and he is spirit not flesh; as one way to reconcile this, and satan is thrown into the lake of fire. But satan was created this way from the beginning, and I don't think satan has zoopio sp? life)
I've often thot that maybe John 5 re: resurrection to judgment is a different resurrection than described in I Corinth 15 (ie: maybe for believers only) and why I even asked in the first post, maybe some can be raised terrestrial, not celestial??
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