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Physical Bodies at ressurrection
ericsteven:
Here's a quick verse that may be of some help:
I Cor. 1:28-29 and the base things of the world, and the things despised did God choose, and the things that are not, that the things that are He may make useless -- that no flesh may glory before Him;
If no flesh is to glory before him, how can unbelieviers and those not chosen be raised at His coming as Paul says 'in glory?'
Something to think about.
God bless,
Eric
jerreye:
Hi Eric: You said:
--- Quote ---So if that is true, than by what you’re saying, Peter, Paul and the rest of the apostles, prior to them going into all the world with the Holy Spirit, must have physically died and been physically resurrected to face the judgment that Peter said must begin with ‘us’ and Jesus said was already in the world.
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This is not what I am saying :) They in fact DID die. In fact they died DAILY -- to themselves. Are we as believers not BURIED into His Death? This IS their/our first death. Since we DO die daily in Christ and are BURIED with Him IN death (yet even though we LIVE), we as believers are now being judged.
The "wicked" who survive the end of this age have not died at all, neither physically nor to themselves. See what I mean?
Hi Kat,
As for this passage you gave:
Rom 14:9 For to this end Christ died and rose and lived again, that He might be Lord of both the dead and the living.
I believe this to mean that since God wants to be the God of the dead and the living, He will have to resurrect them, as He promised to do. It says He is NOT the God of the dead, so in order to BE the God Of the dead, He will have to resurrect them to life. This is how I see it.
Mat 22:32 I am the God of Abraham, and the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob? God is NOT the God of the dead, but of the living.
As for this one:
Exo 33:20 But He said, "You cannot see My face; for no man shall see Me, and live."
Perhaps this is talking of the Father? After all, MANY "saw" Christ Himself as the Risen Savior and DID in fact live. Saul saw Jesus and lived.
At any rate, I appreciate all your input and will respect all of your opinions. I think that this is a topic that we simply will not fully know for sure until we witness it.
I love you all :)
Dennis Vogel:
--- Quote ---God is NOT the God of the dead, but of the living
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Mat 8:22 But Jesus said unto him, Follow me; and let the dead bury their dead.
hillsbororiver:
--- Quote from: ericsteven on October 22, 2008, 04:52:01 PM ---
If no flesh is to glory before him, how can unbelieviers and those not chosen be raised at His coming as Paul says 'in glory?'
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Dan 12:2 And many of them that sleep in the dust of the earth shall awake, some to everlasting life and some to shame and everlasting contempt.
Gal 6:8 For he that soweth to his flesh shall of the flesh reap corruption; but he that soweth to the Spirit shall of the Spirit reap life everlasting.
hillsbororiver:
--- Quote from: jerreye on October 22, 2008, 02:48:37 PM ---
I absolutely agree with you that Ezekiel 37 is a vision (and/or parable) and not to be taken literally.
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On what scriptural authority? Isn't prophecy also spiritual?
Is the following not to be taken literally either?
Isaiah 53
1Who hath believed our report? and to whom is the arm of the LORD revealed?
2For he shall grow up before him as a tender plant, and as a root out of a dry ground: he hath no form nor comeliness; and when we shall see him, there is no beauty that we should desire him.
3He is despised and rejected of men; a man of sorrows, and acquainted with grief: and we hid as it were our faces from him; he was despised, and we esteemed him not.
4Surely he hath borne our griefs, and carried our sorrows: yet we did esteem him stricken, smitten of God, and afflicted.
5But he was wounded for our transgressions, he was bruised for our iniquities: the chastisement of our peace was upon him; and with his stripes we are healed.
6All we like sheep have gone astray; we have turned every one to his own way; and the LORD hath laid on him the iniquity of us all.
7He was oppressed, and he was afflicted, yet he opened not his mouth: he is brought as a lamb to the slaughter, and as a sheep before her shearers is dumb, so he openeth not his mouth.
8He was taken from prison and from judgment: and who shall declare his generation? for he was cut off out of the land of the living: for the transgression of my people was he stricken.
9And he made his grave with the wicked, and with the rich in his death; because he had done no violence, neither was any deceit in his mouth.
10Yet it pleased the LORD to bruise him; he hath put him to grief: when thou shalt make his soul an offering for sin, he shall see his seed, he shall prolong his days, and the pleasure of the LORD shall prosper in his hand.
11He shall see of the travail of his soul, and shall be satisfied: by his knowledge shall my righteous servant justify many; for he shall bear their iniquities.
12Therefore will I divide him a portion with the great, and he shall divide the spoil with the strong; because he hath poured out his soul unto death: and he was numbered with the transgressors; and he bare the sin of many, and made intercession for the transgressors.
Was this not fulfilled in the physical?
Joe
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