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ScarletWren:
1 Cor. 1:1 Paul, a called apostle of Jesus Christ, through God's will, and Sosthenes the brother, 2, unto the assembly of God which is in Corinth, Sanctified in Christ Jesus, called saints, with all who call upon the name of our Lord.....
Romans 1:7 ...unto all that are in Rome, beloved of God, called saints.....
2 Cor. 1: Paul, an apostle of Christ Jesus.....unto the assembly of God which is in Corinth, together with all the saints who are in the whole of Achaia;...
Ephesians 1:1 Paul, an apostle of Christ Jesus, through God's will, unto the saints who are in Ephesus and faithful in Christ Jesus,...
Philippians 1:1 Paul and Timothy, Servants of Jesus Christ, unto all the saints in Christ Jesus who are in Philippi, with overseers and ministers...
Colossians 1:2 ...unto the holy and faithful brethren in Christ that are in Colosse...
Was Paul just writing to the elect or called out ones? Did he know or did they know who would be the ones who would overcome?
Where in the scriptures you quoted does it say that those are expressly and only the people to be called saints? Truly those who overcome are saints, but does that mean the rest of the assembly are not called saints? Were each and everyone of the assemblies Paul addressed overcomers? When I read those epistles it surely doesn't seem so to me especailly some of the strong admonitions Paul delivered to some of them.
Don't forget the ones who will be reigning with Christ are going to be servants, Christ always emphasized that He came to serve not to be served. Though it will indeed be a privilege to serve under Jesus Christ, and ultimately the Father, I just think we still tend to think of saints in terms of someone to be held in awe. It is true that I will be so honored to meet Paul some day, but still, he was the world's worst sinner by his own estimation before Jesus threw him to the ground.
Beloved:
I agree that is what is written in the literal, but
those that have eyes to and ears to hear ....read the spiritual
Paul knew that wolves had crept in, he wrote to his audience that was a mix of wheat and tares....to the those enduring they now see Gods plan and know that All will be in all. The ultimate choice of the chosen is Gods. Since His word will not return void
What he wrote is True for both but at different times the two together will then bring in the grape harvest
Of course they will be servants....rule and reign / priests and kings / shepards and counselors/ We will still be following the way of Christ as part of HIS BODY.
This is not what the church today believes. They think they will be living high on the hog, masters of the world and living in golden mansions and in all the luxory of the world...but as the venerable Gump would say " carnal is as carnal does"
beloved
beloved
mharrell08:
--- Quote from: ScarletWren on October 26, 2008, 02:19:57 PM ---Where in the scriptures you quoted does it say that those are expressly and only the people to be called saints? Truly those who overcome are saints, but does that mean the rest of the assembly are not called saints? Were each and everyone of the assemblies Paul addressed overcomers? When I read those epistles it surely doesn't seem so to me especailly some of the strong admonitions Paul delivered to some of them.
Don't forget the ones who will be reigning with Christ are going to be servants, Christ always emphasized that He came to serve not to be served. Though it will indeed be a privilege to serve under Jesus Christ, and ultimately the Father, I just think we still tend to think of saints in terms of someone to be held in awe. It is true that I will be so honored to meet Paul some day, but still, he was the world's worst sinner by his own estimation before Jesus threw him to the ground.
--- End quote ---
Scarlet, I think there is somewhat of a miscommunication going on. When I stated 'saints' it was in the regard of those who continued in the faith and to be in the 1st resurrection, whoever they are. If those in the congregation that Paul spoke to did not continue in the faith, then they are not saints then, right?
The saints who are to judge to the world is only a high calling because it is God who bestows this glory upon them. Though Paul addressed the whole congregation as saints, as he or no one else had personal knowledge as to who the elect are, this is spoken to them if they continue in the faith.
Hope this clears up any confusion,
Marques
aqrinc:
The Highest Calling of All is to be a servant to the least one of all. This is my understanding of what the Scriptures teach
in that regard. Saints are converted sinners, so we all are becoming Saints since we are all sinners. The Elect are part of
First Fruits (Saints) the Great Harvest are Saved sinners (Saints).
george.
Beloved:
Bingo George, short and sweet ;D
Beloved
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