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Spirit and Soul
hammerandnails:
But who is the "inner man"? ???
I'm sory, but right now my mind does not help me much, and I tend to think
in black and white.
Where exactly is the "inner man" and where does he reside?
If he is in the soul, why is he hidden?
Is he "Christ in me"?
Kat:
Hi Legoman,
--- Quote ---If I can just clarify (and ask for clarification), there are 2 different spirits we are talking about here.
ALL men who are living have spirit (God's breath of life), otherwise they would not be alive.
However a small subset have the Holy Spirit, which gives them understanding and a knowledge of the truth. Am I correct on this?
--- End quote ---
Yes, that is what I believe. As all receive the spirit of life at physical birth, so every person alive has this spirit. But we then also need the spirit of Christ/Counselor/Comforter/Spirit of truth, to be given to us.
John 15:26 But when the Counselor comes, whom I shall send to you from the Father, even the Spirit of truth, who proceeds from the Father, he (it) will bear witness to me;
--- Quote ---But who is the "inner man"?
--- End quote ---
I believe that this "inner man" is the mind or our conscience or soul. This is who we are, what character we have, our morals. The body is the outward or visible man; the soul, the inward, hidden, or invisible man.
Eph 3:16 That he would grant you, according to the riches of His glory, to be strengthened with might by His Spirit in the inner man;
2Co 4:16 For which cause we faint not; but though our outward man perish, yet the inward man is renewed day by day.
It is the Spirit of Christ that comes and He begins to strengthen us and teaches us how to live rightous.
Isa 2:3 ...He will teach us His ways,
And we shall walk in His paths."
For out of Zion shall go forth the law,
And the word of the LORD from Jerusalem.
Luke 12:12 For the Holy Spirit will teach you in that very hour what you ought to say.
mercy, peace and love
Kat
hammerandnails:
I started on a quest to find out exactly the difference between the spirit and soul.
Here it is, but I cannot list the scripture just yet because I got to start dinner.
I will give the scripture latter this evening.
When man became a living soul, it became so by the aid of the spirit.
You cannot have soul (living) without the spirit and spirit without soul.
To the conscious mind there are one and the same.
Now in order to "walk in the spirit" (Gal.), you must know the difference, you must discern which one
is which. For that reason we must be "sifted as wheat" in order to be converted.
In addition to that, the word must cut "assunder " bet. the soul and spirit.
Then and only then, we will not fulfil the lusts of the flesh,
when we are sifted or separated completely.
Did it ever happened to you to have the most glorious revelation or pious thoughts, and the
very second after that the most evil thought that you wonder where that came from? ???
We are not separated yet, not completely!!
Until then we are a mixture. (Job)
Mixed waters!!! (James) We must be purified, and that is accomplished
by separating, sifting, cutting.
Love you all,
Ariel
hammerandnails:
One more thing.
I believe the "inner man" is Christ forming in you. ..."until Christ is formed in you."
And is growing as to the degree of separation.
More separation, more growing.
It may take a life time!!
Now I'm going to make dinner.
Talk to you later!
Ariel
Beloved:
Yes Ariel
Just like being created when spirit is added to physical flesh
Being reborn seems to entail two parts:
separation (dieing to carnal self ) and
quickening (Christ spirit replacing our plain spirit)
then at Resurrection
those dead will be quickended and given a spiritual body
those alive will be quickened and receive a spiritual body
here are some scriptures on quickening to ponder
Psa 80:18 So will not we go back from thee: quicken us, and we will call upon thy name.
Psa 119:25 My soul cleaveth unto the dust: quicken thou me according to thy word.
Psa 119:37 Turn away mine eyes from beholding vanity; and quicken thou me in thy way.
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Joh 5:21 For as the Father raiseth up the dead, and quickeneth them; even so the Son quickeneth whom he will.
Joh 6:63 It is the spirit that quickeneth; the flesh profiteth nothing: the words that I speak unto you, they are spirit, and they are life.
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Rom 8:11 But if the Spirit of him that raised up Jesus from the dead dwell in you, he that raised up Christ from the dead shall also quicken your mortal bodies by his Spirit that dwelleth in you.
Rom 4:17 (As it is written, I have made thee a father of many nations,) before him whom he believed, even God, who quickeneth the dead, and calleth those things which be not as though they were.
1Co 15:36 Thou fool, that which thou sowest is not quickened, except it die:
1Co 15:45 And so it is written, The first man Adam was made a living soul; the last Adam was made a quickening spirit.
Eph 2:5 Even when we were dead in sins, hath quickened us together with Christ, by (grace ye are saved;)
beloved
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