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Having Trouble Understanding the "Law"
love_magnified:
--- Quote from: Origen II ---Some here need to read Leviticus :p
Such things NOT to do in the book of Leviticus are eating certain meats, wearing certain types of material, cutting your hair certain ways, etc.
It's just odd that these same laws are right next to laws that are apparent sins (like homosexuality) and aren't even seperated.
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The Law of Moses was the physical representation of what Christ brought and what he brought is much better. Do you think Christ was put into us so that the 10 commandments would NOT be followed, and so that laws regarding homosexuality need not be heeded? Christ was put into us so that the reality of the Law would be realized. Again all the laws, including the moral laws (10 commandments) are shadows of what would come in Christ that we may have life more abundantly.
eutychus:
search the word vail
see how many times it comes up in lev.
here ya go:
2Cr 3:13 And not as Moses, [which] put a vail over his face, that the children of Israel could not stedfastly look to the end of that which is abolished:
Rom 10:4 For Christ [is] the end of the law for righteousness to every one that believeth.
2Cr 3:14 But their minds were blinded: for until this day remaineth the same vail untaken away in the reading of the old testament; which [vail] is done away in Christ.
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2Cr 3:15 But even unto this day, when Moses is read, the vail is upon their heart.
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2Cr 3:16 Nevertheless when it shall turn to the Lord, the vail shall be taken away.
chrissiela:
oops... sorry feat... :oops:
Here are some more verse about the law:
Gal 3:11 But that no man is justified by the law in the sight of God, it is evident: for, The just shall live BY FAITH.
Gal 3:12 And the law is not of faith: but, The man that doeth them shall live in them.
Gal 3:13 Christ hath redeemed us from the curse of the law, being made a curse for us: for it is written, Cursed is every one that hangeth on a tree:
Gal 3:14 That the blessing of Abraham might come on the Gentiles through Jesus Christ; that we might receive the promise of the Spirit THROUGH FAITH.
Gal 3:15 Brethren, I speak after the manner of men; Though it be but a man's covenant, yet if it be confirmed, no man disannulleth, or addeth thereto.
Gal 3:16 Now to Abraham and his seed were the promises made. He saith not, And to seeds, as of many; but as of one, And to thy seed, which is Christ.
Gal 3:17 And this I say, that the covenant, that was confirmed before of God in Christ, the law, which was four hundred and thirty years after, cannot disannul, that it should make the promise of none effect.
Gal 3:18 For if the inheritance be of the law, it is no more of promise: but God gave it to Abraham by promise.
Gal 3:19 Wherefore then serveth the law? It was ADDED because of transgressions, TILL the seed should come to whom the promise was made; and it was ordained by angels in the hand of a mediator.
Gal 3:20 Now a mediator is not a mediator of one, but God is one.
Gal 3:21 Is the law then against the promises of God? God forbid: for if there had been a law given which could have given life, verily righteousness should have been by the law.
Gal 3:22 But the scripture hath concluded all under sin, that the promise by faith of Jesus Christ might be given to them that believe.
Gal 3:23 But BEFORE FAITH CAME, we were kept UNDER the law, SHUT UP UNTO FAITH which should AFTERWORDS be revealed.
Gal 3:24 Wherefore the law was our SCHOOLMASTER to bring us UNTO CHRIST, that we might be justified BY FAITH.
Gal 3:25 But after that faith is come, we are no longer under a schoolmaster.
Gal 3:26 For ye are all the children of God by faith in Christ Jesus.
Gal 3:27 For as many of you as have been baptized into Christ have put on Christ.[/list:u]
There is OLD wine and the is NEW wine. There is an OLD garment and there is a NEW garment. There is an OLD covenant and there is a NEW covenant. There is the law of Moses (which was ADDED because of trangressions and to bring sin to light) and there is the ROYAL LAW, which is written in our hearts....
Mat 22:36 Master, which is the great commandment in the law?
Mat 22:37 Jesus said unto him, Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind.
Mat 22:38 This is the first and great commandment.
Mat 22:39 And the second is like unto it, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.
Mat 22:40 On these two commandments hang all the law and the prophets.[/list:u]
Wonder how or if that ties to "cursed is everyone that hangeth on a tree" and Christ "nailing it to His cross"??
The only thing that I can find, so far, that says anything about there NOT being a NEW commandment, but it being and OLD commandment is this:
1Jo 2:7 Brethren, I write NO new commandment unto you, BUT AN OLD commandment which ye had from the beginning. The old commandment is the word which ye have heard from the beginning.[/list:u]
However, as I see it, Moses is not and was not "the beginning". The laws of Moses were ADDED because of TRANSGRESSIONS. Apart from the law there is NO SIN.... but DEATH still reigned even before the law of Moses was 'added'.
Moses is not the BEGINNING. CHRIST IS.
Rev 22:13 I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end, the first and the last.[/list:u]
It is the ROYAL LAW (the Law of God and of LOVE) that we have had "from the beginning" and that we should be following.... not the law of Moses, which was 'added'.
Jam 2:8 If ye fulfil THE ROYAL LAW according to the scripture, Thou shalt LOVE THY NEIGHBOUR AS THYSELF, ye do well:[/list:u]
That's my 2 (more) cents... plus some (more)... :roll:
Chrissie :wink:
chrissiela:
Joh 3:16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.
1Jo 4:19 We love him, because he first loved us.[/list:u]
There is the Royal Law... that we have had "from the beginning". [-o<
Blessings,
Chrissie
bobf:
--- Quote from: Origen II ---Okay...I understand.
But still, if we are no longer to obey the Law of the flesh, why do we stop eating certain foods and viewing special Holy Days, but we still keep other parts of the physical law like homosexuality?
I'm just saying that I can't find anywhere where the ENTIRE Law is destroyed...nor can I find anywhere where the Food Laws are seperate from the sex Laws.
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We are not bound to ANYTHING in law of Moses. The reason homosexuality is wrong (or polygamy or fornication) is because God created male & female for each other and the two shall become one flesh.
The law of Moses was WATERED DOWN because of the unrighteousness of its audience:
Mark 10:3 And he answered and said unto them, What did Moses command you? 4 And they said, Moses suffered to write a bill of divorcement, and to put her away. 5 And Jesus answered and said unto them, For the hardness of your heart he wrote you this precept. 6 But from the beginning of the creation God made them male and female. 7 For this cause shall a man leave his father and mother, and cleave to his wife; 8 And they twain shall be one flesh: so then they are no more twain, but one flesh. 9 What therefore God hath joined together, let not man put asunder.
If a righteous person goes ahead and obeys this law of Moses and gives his wife a bill of divorcement then he will be committing adultery. So the law of Moses is substandard. That's why Jesus gave different commandments.
This passage shows that the Ten Commandments are done away for those in Christ.
2 Corinthians 3:7 But if the ministration of death, written and engraven in stones, was glorious, so that the children of Israel could not stedfastly behold the face of Moses for the glory of his countenance; which glory was to be done away: 8 How shall not the ministration of the spirit be rather glorious? 9 For if the ministration of condemnation be glory, much more doth the ministration of righteousness exceed in glory. 10 For even that which was made glorious had no glory in this respect, by reason of the glory that excelleth. 11 For if that which is done away was glorious, much more that which remaineth is glorious. 12 Seeing then that we have such hope, we use great plainness of speech: 13 And not as Moses, which put a vail over his face, that the children of Israel could not stedfastly look to the end of that which is abolished.
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