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Having Trouble Understanding the "Law"
Becky:
BELOVED,
Thanks for sharing... that is how i am beginning to see sex in the bible and it is nice to have some other examples and verses to look at as i continue to study..
one question:
I'm confused about the physical sin being sin if it was meant to be a spiritual sin... where can i look for those answers>?
worm:
--- Quote from: Beloved ---What is it with the 603 ??? I think you are referring to the 613 Mitzvot.
They even went so far as to tie 613 knots tied on their prayer shawls fringes. There are 248 Positive and 365 Negative Commandments.
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yes...Origen...ask your Jewish friend when referring to "law"...does he mean the Torah (Books of Moses) or the Talmud?
in the Talmud (devised by Rabbis) you'll find all kinds of "laws"
on the topic of the Law vs Jesus...He completed the Law in all its fullness...it was Him (as Jahweh) who gave the Law in the first place.
Also, everything He said which is recorded in the NT is Law :wink:
Beloved:
--- Quote from: Becky ---BELOVED,
Thanks for sharing... that is how i am beginning to see sex in the bible and it is nice to have some other examples and verses to look at as i continue to study..
one question:
I'm confused about the physical sin being sin if it was meant to be a spiritual sin... where can i look for those answers>?
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Start in Genesis.
Eating the apple was not the sin, it was the disobedience. Before she ate Eve committed the three sins listed in 1 John 2:16
(1Jo 2:16 KJVR)
For all that is in the world, the lust of the flesh, and the lust of the eyes, and the pride of life, is not of the Father, but is of the world.
Christ counteracted these same three things when He was tempted in the Wilderness. His only weapon was the Word. "It is written" Though it happened in the physical this too was spiritual This was also a spiritual lesson on how we are to deal with these three deeds of the mind.
Christ is the First fruit and in.. Perfect Obedience... the Fruit.. was put back on ..the tree (the cross). The elect as His body are there too.
(Rom 8:1 KJVR)
There is therefore now no condemnation to them which are in Christ Jesus, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit.
(Rom 8:4 KJVR)
That the righteousness of the law might be fulfilled in us, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit.
If Christ is our head and we do the Will of the Father then the first three commandments are automatic, since God loves and will save All of mankind, thenwe can finally love are enemy as well as our friends. Now the remaining seven commandments no longer have any meaning to us.
The elect as the spiritual Body still has the physical flesh to contend with, we need to mortify and keep it under control. When we don't we have an advocate who will forgive our sins when we repent. Everything in the physical starts to beome more and more meaninless. "The flesh profith nothing"
(Rom 8:5 KJVR)
For they that are after the flesh do mind the things of the flesh; but they that are after the Spirit the things of the Spirit.
(Rom 8:6 KJVR)
For to be carnally minded is death; but to be spiritually minded is life and peace.
All of the sins in the Buble are like this, David and Bathsheb ( the adultery, lies, murder etc) Anaisis and his wife (attempting to hold something back from God). The list goes on.......
(Gal 5:16 KJVR)
This I say then, Walk in the Spirit, and ye shall not fulfill the lust of the flesh.
This following scrioture only makes sence from our present perspective.
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1Co 15:46 KJVR)
Howbeit that was not first which is spiritual, but that which is natural; and afterward that which is spiritual.
From God'd perspective it is always spiritual
Speaking of the Flesh and Spirit, I think I am becoming a BT Forum junkie.
Becky I don't know if this helped or not.
Beloved
rocky:
oops
Becky:
thanks again beloved! I am learning more now in genesis
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