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Finished or not finished?
chrissiela:
--- Quote from: gmik ---You have been discussing the end from the beginning....Are there any ideas about God forgiving everyone-the whole world.....but then saying I won't forgive you if you don't forgive...Ray gave it a good shot and I know that scriptures in their sum and totality give truth, but I must admit I am not sure how these 2 scriptures work together.....
--- End quote ---
I think that it has to do with judgment... just as in "judge not lest ye be judged"....
Mat 18:27 Then the lord of that servant was moved with compassion, and loosed him, and forgave him the debt.
Mat 18:28 But the same servant went out, and found one of his fellowservants, which owed him an hundred pence: and he laid hands on him, and took him by the throat, saying, Pay me that thou owest.
Mat 18:29 And his fellowservant fell down at his feet, and besought him, saying, Have patience with me, and I will pay thee all.
Mat 18:30 And he would not: but went and cast him into prison, till he should pay the debt.
Mat 18:31 So when his fellowservants saw what was done, they were very sorry, and came and told unto their lord all that was done.
Mat 18:32 Then his lord, after that he had called him, said unto him, O thou wicked servant, I forgave thee all that debt, because thou desiredst me:
Mat 18:33 Shouldest not thou also have had compassion on thy fellowservant, even as I had pity on thee?
Mat 18:34 And his lord was wroth, and delivered him to the tormentors, till he should pay all that was due unto him.
Mat 18:35 So likewise shall my heavenly Father do also unto you, if ye from your hearts forgive not every one his brother their trespasses.[/list:u]
And here again:
Mat 5:25 Agree with thine adversary quickly, whiles thou art in the way with him; lest at any time the adversary deliver thee to the judge, and the judge deliver thee to the officer, and thou be cast into prison.
Mat 5:26 Verily I say unto thee, Thou shalt by no means come out thence, till thou hast paid the uttermost farthing.[/list:u]
So it's not that we won't be forgive EVER... but when and how.
Chrissie
Daniel:
The "Tormentors PART" is really fascinating :lol:
Daniel
Brett:
Hello,
I like what Ray Smith said:
Paul told those on his ship sailing to Rome, that if any remained not on the ship they could NOT be saved. Yet an angel already told Paul that everyone WOULD be saved. (Acts 27:31). Answer? God saw to it that everyone DID remain on the ship.
Okay, as you see bolds and underline are mine. I am interesting to find if anywhere in verse like angel told Paul that everyone would be saved, do you know where you know where the verse is?
Thanks!
chrissiela:
here Brett:
Act 27:22 And now I exhort you to be of good cheer: for there shall be NO LOSS of any man's life among you, but of the ship.
Act 27:23 For there stood by me this night the angel of God, whose I am, and whom I serve,
Act 27:24 Saying, Fear not, Paul; thou must be brought before Caesar: and, lo, God hath given thee ALL them that sail with thee.
Act 27:25 Wherefore, sirs, be of good cheer: for I believe God, that it shall be even as it was told me.[/list:u]
Chrissie
knuckle:
Hi all---------
I tend to look at it like this-----During the pass over in egypt salvation was provided through the blood of a lamb.We stand in the hour before the passover.The lamb has been sacraficed and all the power to thwart death is in our hand all we have to do is apply the blood to the door jamb.The Lamb's job is finished but the blood's job is not,not until the night is passed and the new day has dawned.
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