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Finished or not finished?
Indagator:
--- Quote from: parsonssc ---I don't know if any of you here have ever been a chess player. I was pretty good in my younger days.
A good chess player can look ahead several moves. There were times when I played people and they would make a move and I could tell you the game was over at that point. We still maybe had to continue the game for 6 or 7 moves, and the other player may not have known that I had already won, but there was no doubt of the result, at that point the game was over.
This is how I see God. When Christ died it was finished, we may be continueing the game, but for all intent and purpose the game is already over.
Blessings!
Craig
--- End quote ---
That's somewhat how I see it actually. When playing chess, I tend to be defensive. That is to check and make sure that anything that could happen would be known to me whether it's according to paths that my opponent could take, and/or how moves I would make could alter their moves. After checking my own defense to be sure that all is in control, I can then think about offense.
God is our defender...
2Ki 19:34 For I will defend this city, to save it, for mine own sake, and for my servant David's sake.
2Ki 20:6 And I will add unto thy days fifteen years; and I will deliver thee and this city out of the hand of the king of Assyria; and I will defend this city for mine own sake, and for my servant David's sake. (The spirit has yet to reveal to me the whole meaning of this verse, but I feel it is applicable as of yet. I would love to have input on this. The same words are repeated here)
Psa 59:1 <To the chief Musician, Altaschith, Michtam of David; when Saul sent, and they watched the house to kill him.> Deliver me from mine enemies, O my God: defend me from them that rise up against me.(my "enemies" are made of sin, and temptation to stray from the path, not people. People are just like me. Heh, really I could say that "people" are better than me. Nobody said it would be easy)
Psa 82:3 Defend the poor and fatherless: do justice to the afflicted and needy. (be as one that follows Christ. The "poor" and "Fatherless" are also "prostitutes" and "publicans")
There is more that I would add now, but I just found something so I have to cut this short there. Oddly enough it was after searching "defend" in e-sword. I'm thinking it may be important, and I hope that it is.
I also found something in Zec 12:7 while looking around about the Lord preserving the "tents of Judah" first. Check it out.
Lord help me understand.
Brett:
--- Quote from: chrissiela ---here Brett:
Act 27:22 And now I exhort you to be of good cheer: for there shall be NO LOSS of any man's life among you, but of the ship.
Act 27:23 For there stood by me this night the angel of God, whose I am, and whom I serve,
Act 27:24 Saying, Fear not, Paul; thou must be brought before Caesar: and, lo, God hath given thee ALL them that sail with thee.
Act 27:25 Wherefore, sirs, be of good cheer: for I believe God, that it shall be even as it was told me.[/list:u]
Chrissie
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Thanks Chrissie. O:)
lilitalienboi16:
--- Quote from: Indagator ---
--- Quote from: parsonssc ---I don't know if any of you here have ever been a chess player. I was pretty good in my younger days.
A good chess player can look ahead several moves. There were times when I played people and they would make a move and I could tell you the game was over at that point. We still maybe had to continue the game for 6 or 7 moves, and the other player may not have known that I had already won, but there was no doubt of the result, at that point the game was over.
This is how I see God. When Christ died it was finished, we may be continueing the game, but for all intent and purpose the game is already over.
Blessings!
Craig
--- End quote ---
That's somewhat how I see it actually. When playing chess, I tend to be defensive. That is to check and make sure that anything that could happen would be known to me whether it's according to paths that my opponent could take, and/or how moves I would make could alter their moves. After checking my own defense to be sure that all is in control, I can then think about offense.
God is our defender...
2Ki 19:34 For I will defend this city, to save it, for mine own sake, and for my servant David's sake.
2Ki 20:6 And I will add unto thy days fifteen years; and I will deliver thee and this city out of the hand of the king of Assyria; and I will defend this city for mine own sake, and for my servant David's sake. (The spirit has yet to reveal to me the whole meaning of this verse, but I feel it is applicable as of yet. I would love to have input on this. The same words are repeated here)
Lord help me understand.
--- End quote ---
I believe what is applicable in the spiritual reality is that King David, represents the elect and God the Father or Jesus Christ will defend the holy city Jeresulem the heavenly one that is, spoken of in Revalation, for His servents. He will defend them and protect the Called, Chosen, faithul and overcomers. Or it can be applied to Christ, God will defend Christ, His word and His Holy City where He resides this being, Heaven as im aware of it.
I could be wrong offcourse however that is how i see it, but i have not mediated nor done any thinking on this topic.
hillsbororiver:
I thought this thread could use another go around, some good stuff here, any comments?
Joe
Robin:
I think this surely ties in with the topic of relative vs. absolute that has been discussed recently.
From our perspective God is telling us to forgive and we will be forgiven. From God's perspective we will forgive because he is faithful to finish the work he started in us.
Philippians 1:6
Being confident of this very thing, that he which hath begun a good work in you will perform it until the day of Jesus Christ:
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