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eggi:
And by the way... There are no if's with God. They just seem to be if's to us!  ;D

Martinez:

To right eggi!

We become puffed up enough with the knowledge He gives us, imagine if We knew for sure that We were the elect!

hammerandnails:
Kat, Amen to that!

Ariel

hammerandnails:
My dearest brother, Richard,

I read your post yesterday, and for the life of me, I could not find one word to comfort you by!!

I tossed and turned all night, my heart was heavy for you and Martinez.

Then, in the morning, this thought came to me:

God said through Paul to comfort each other with the same comfort that we are comforted.
So here it is, the comfort that I am comforted by:

When I feel like I must do God's job, when I feel down and have one of these seasons [sometimes days]
where I feel that it my salvation depends on me, and from I stand, it will never be accomplished,
when the cross gets to heavy to bear, when I see my own wretchedness, weakness and dirt,
when I question why, when all these if's come to my mind, when scripture does not connect with Scripture,
when I just DON'T UNDERSTAND, I retreat in the love language.

I pray that you will not laugh at me, but here it is:

I play this song in my CD player.
Here are the lyrics:


                         "Looking back, in retrospect,
                          Funny how I see,
                          The laughs and frowns,
                          The ups and downs,
                          Is part of destiny!!


                          You wish upon a star, and hope,
                          One day that wish come true,
                          BUT I WOLDN'T CHANGE A SINGLE THING
                          FOR THE CHANCE OF LOVING YOU.


                          Born for this, destined for greatness!!
                          I was prepared for this,
                          YOUR STRENGHT FOR MY WEAKNESS,
                         I learned that loving you is easy,
                          And that with love it comes a RISK
                          And in my quest to find the answer,
                          FOUND I WAS BORN FOR THIS!!!!!


                          What we don't KNOW,
                          Time will tell,
                           This I do believe,
                          Life doesn't mean just happiness,
                          There's always room for rain,
                          BUT IF WE LEARN WHAT MATTER MOST
                          SPRING WILL COME AGAIN!!!

                          THERE IS A TIME TO LIVE
                          AND A TIME TO DIE
                          Let's celebrate each moment of our lives,
                          AND IF EVER LOOSE OUR WAY
                          BECAUSE THE HEART IS TORN,
                       
                          NEVER LET A QUESTION WHY,
                          THE REASON WE ARE BORN!!!!!!!

I hope that this touched your heart,
Let go and let GOD!!

[I HEAR YOU LAUGHING!!!! ;D ;D]
I hope that is not at me!!
And if it is so what,
I became as fool, and I am willing even to became a clown,
JUST TO SEE YOU SMILE!!!!! ;D ;D


Your sister that loves you,
Shalom.
Ariel


PS: Martinez this is for you as well brother!!! ;D ;D ;D
Love,
Ariel

Samson:
Good Morning Richard,

                               Kat covered this quite well mentioning Ray's explanation about
" working out one's Salvation with FEAR AND TREMBLING " and Ariel provided some
comforting words.

                               After reading your Thread, this Scripture was in my thoughts
from reflecting on your initial Post: " When the Disciples heard that, they expressed very
great surprise saying: Who really can be saved. " Looking them in the face, Jesus said to them:
" WITH MEN THIS IS IMPOSSIBLE, BUT WITH GOD ALL THINGS ARE POSSIBLE." Matt. 19:25,26.


                                      Kind Regards, Samson.

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