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Christians with an unchrist like approach in dealing with ho
zander:
Like i say, if the guy is flouncing some normal house rules, like as you say having sex with other men under their roof without consent, then i can understand in some way that it would be difficult to live with him.
But not JUST for being gay. Even if he was going out and having his shenanigans, thats still forgiveable. Nolt like the guy is killing anyone.
But its all guess work. we dont know the details as is being said here.
roperfam:
For me, this is such a hard verse to believe, to have my eyes opened to.
Jam 2:10 for whoever the whole law shall keep, and shall stumble in one point , he hath become guilty of all;
Sorin:
--- Quote from: zander ---Sure, i mean if the guy in question was a nightmare to live with, disobedient, drug taking, violent etc, then that would make a case for him being difficult to live with.
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A "drug taking " son is not as SHAMEFUL to the parents/family as a homosexual son is.
I'd much rather have a disobedient, drug taking, violent son, than a gay son anyday.
--- Quote from: zander ---But i cant condone the kicking of out of a house of a relative just for being gay for God's sake.
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I can. and I do condone it. I can't condone homosexuality, like you do however. just like I can't condone people having sex w/ animals, or child molesters.
--- Quote from: zander ---Let him without sin cast the first stone.
This verse is never truer than when the issue of sexuality comes out (excuse the pun).
--- End quote ---
Then why are you casting stones at people who are not PRO-GAY???
Are you without sin?
--- Quote from: zander ---Its a shame to judge the poor guy. (by that, im not saying anyone here is judging him)
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No, it's a shame to be a homo, and what he has done to his family, they must now walk about with their heads down in shame.
and yet you are saying they should embrace this shame that has come upon them. * shakes head*
--- Quote from: zander ---Jesus came to save sinners, not kick them out
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They are not Jesus, they're his parents.
rvhill:
--- Quote from: Sorin ---
--- Quote from: zander ---Sure, i mean if the guy in question was a nightmare to live with, disobedient, drug taking, violent etc, then that would make a case for him being difficult to live with.
--- End quote ---
A "drug taking " son is not as SHAMEFUL to the parents/family as a homosexual son is.
I'd much rather have a disobedient, drug taking, violent son, than a gay son anyday.
--- Quote from: zander ---But i cant condone the kicking of out of a house of a relative just for being gay for God's sake.
--- End quote ---
I can. and I do condone it. I can't condone homosexuality, like you do however. just like I can't condone people having sex w/ animals, or child molesters.
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I disagree. I do not condone either. I have tried to help those with drug problems you can only help them if they wish to be helped. It is the same with any affliction. If a homosexuality came to me looking for help I would try to help them with it. Every one have their limits. Even when someone say they want help. You may reach your limit before you can help them free of their affliction.
roperfam:
Jam 2:10 for whoever the whole law shall keep, and shall stumble in one point , he hath become guilty of all;
Arent' we all guilty of homosexuality etc. Haven't we all broken the law? Then we are guilty of breaking all.
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