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Linny:
Hi Judith,
I understand where you are coming from. I also agree with what Marques is saying.
If I may, I'd like to tell you how we have dealt with this issue in our lives.
First, we came out of the church. I will say this. God made it so easy for us. My husband believed as I did, immediately upon finding the truth. Second, He allowed us to see first hand the "truth" of those we were sitting under in our last church. The last 2 churches we attended were a very sad lot of greedy, kissing-up-to-the-wealthy, could-care-less-about-us, pastors. But we, like you, found so many people who loved the Lord sitting in the pews.
I love my friends. I love having friends. I still have friends. I don't go to church with them. I don't discuss BT with them UNLESS directed to by the Lord or unless they ask me a direct question. I only have about 5 friends who I can speak openly to about our new beliefs. But my other friends are still precious to me and I pray that one day God will open their eyes too and He'll direct me to share with them. But until then, I can love them and offer advise to them when they ask and let them love on me too.
So I guess what I am saying is that you can have non-BT friends. Jesus hung out with the "blind" all the time. As Ray said in one of his responses once... 'Didn't Jesus "eat and socialize with SINNERS in their own homes?"' But you don't have to worship with them in a church. Honestly, I can't worship with them as we don't worship the same truth. The true gospel of Jesus is not found in the churches. So the true Jesus is not worshipped there. How can I go in there to worship and not be a hypocrite or ignore what I know to be true?
Bless you,
Lin
Amrhrasach:
--- Quote from: mharrell08 on December 30, 2008, 09:13:33 AM ---
Unless you are interested in the Truths of God, I don't think you should bother to read the material on my site. It is straight from the Scriptures, and for that reason, it is most offensive to most Christians.
I am not here to parrot the "damnable heresies" (I Pet. 2:1) of some "local church."
God be with you,
Ray
I am exactly of NO church or denomination of institutionalized men. I am a member "The Body of Chirst," which is a Scriptural term and represents the followers of Jesus.
God be with you,
Ray
We all have our different things we struggle with and these things humble us.
Thanks,
Marques
--- End quote ---
Indeed, and Amen.
Gary
judith collier:
Thanks Marlene and Linny I respond better to a soft touch. I don't attend church regurally whereas I used to be very involved. I don't think I will ever get rid of that guilt. Yes, I believe we are the church and I did return more than a few times but left again and I do have one friend who believes as I do and we are close, another I just don't argue with. My husband says he doesn't believe in God even though everyday I try to show Him God's love. He hates being blind and it is a sorrowful state. My children(4) and 7 grandchildren are much more open to me, I guess it's because I always tought them to think for themselves. One of my families are deep into a church and they don't even believe what is taught, it's more a social situation. If I challenge them, well, I know it is time to shut up. God, how I miss my traditions(yes, I know) And it is lonely as I don't have the time or energy to socialize much as I also have leukemia and tire easily. But I do get up everyday and trust God to help me through with his strenghth. Funny how things worked out, I always thought it would be so much better but I thank God for what is. My husband is not nor has been a good match and even betrayed me for 10 years and now I help him and his brother who was so mean to me when I was young. I always wonder if I missed what I was supposed to do, surely I did. This doesn't seem like God loves me but I believe it anyway. Thanks, Judy
Marlene:
Judy, Gods love is the only one we can really count on. All, our trials are for a purpose. When, I feel down it helps me to know he loves me. I believe many need a soft touch. I find it always works better for me.
In His Love,
Marlene
pinko:
My husband is not nor has been a good match and even betrayed me for 10 years and now I help him and his brother who was so mean to me when I was young. I always wonder if I missed what I was supposed to do, surely I did. This doesn't seem like God loves me but I believe it anyway.
Judith-- your husband was the exact match for you, as God intended it. And, you can stop wondering...you did not miss what you were supposed to do! Everything has gone exactly as planned. So God does love you; you can believe that.
Ya gotta let go of the 'coulda-woulda-shoulda' mentality. God's plan for you is perfect. You are exactly where He wants you to be. You can believe that.
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