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Falconn003:
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Rodger

Dave in Tenn:
Shane, I'll garuntee you that if you can come to a knowledge of the Truth--truth about God and truth about yourself--you'll find exactly what you are looking for in being humbled/persecuted/tested.  You won't have to hack off a limb or maim yourself socially.  You'll begin to die.

Then you can study economics.   :D

Hang in there.

Ninny:
Shane, some of the things said here may sound harsh to you , but you need to remember that a lot of us here have lived through a lot and learned, through that living. You didn't even have to reveal your age to most of us your post revealed it for you!

We can all attest to the fact that as you live out your life daily some of the questions you ask are answered automatically. Most of them require deep thought and study of the scriptures. I remember how it feels as well how fervently you set out to share the new things you have learned, it's not that age destroys your enthusiasm, it's that you learn what Jesus was about by going through this life in this place! God put you here for a reason it may take you a lot of years to get to where God is ultimately going to send you, then maybe it won't take long at all, God has time for everything!

Take time to look around you and learn the lessons you have to learn, then if God sends you into the wilderness you'll be prepared for it. Remember Jesus was thirty years old when He went into the wilderness, He didn't have to stay there long before He knew exactly what His Father required of Him!
Go ahead now and read and study. Please know that no one here wants to offend or belittle you we ALL want to see you succeed in your life with Christ! :D
Kathy ;)

Linny:
Shane, I personally find you to be quite humble and I wanted to praise you for not taking offense to harshness.
Most people, no matter what their age, struggle with that.
I hope you will take some time to really read and study and come back here. You will still have lots of questions as we all do. But you will get so many answers to the more obvious questions and misconceptions you have now. I quake at the thought of what all I may have said if I'd come to the forum before having read a lot of Ray's teachings! :o

Bless you!
Lin

EKnight:

--- Quote from: Shane. on January 22, 2009, 07:17:31 PM ---I think I am beginning to understand.  All of your posts have been very helpful so far.  Thank you so much for them.  I also promise to do my reading before I carry this on much further.  I just have a couple more points where I am having confusion.

--- Quote ---If a government official, beit a police officer, or soldier, or even the President of the United States himself, ASKS YOU to do something that you know is against God's Law, then yes you do have the authority and are commanded to "yield to God rather than to men".
--- End quote ---
I agree completely, I guess we would just differ on what exactly is against God's law.  I'm having trouble believing that supporting sweat shops throughout the world is not against God's law.  For me it comes down to Matthew 18:8.

"So if your hand or your foot causes you to sin, cut it off and throw it away."

I feel like modern living causes sin and that I should cut it off.  It sounds drastic... almost as drastic as cutting off a limb that causes us to sin! 

Like I said, I'll keep quiet until I do the reading.  Thanks again for entertaining my questions.

--- End quote ---

Just a quick observation here.  Would it be better for those working overseas for a mere .50 cents an hour if we stopped employing them entirely??  Who are we to say that that fifty cents is not a blessing from God (as I am sure some consider it)?  Don't get me wrong here, my heart goes out to those living in underdeveloped, underprivileged countries.  However, it humbles me and causes me to give thanks to the Almighty for the blessings he has bestowed on me (us).  In return for those blessings, or as a show of gratitude, I am obligated to take only what I need and no more.  This, like Mc_can pointed out, is a very difficult undertaking.....the task of "overcoming", understanding and then accepting, that the flesh profits NOTHING.

Eileen

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