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Lust and Marriage
Beloved:
Who am I,
How does being in a legal binding override a spiritual concept.
I am not quite sure of your question, it seems to me confusing. You are trying to mix carnal things with the spiritual. Marriage is only a shadow of a spiritual concept...the physical is temporay and spiritual is noncorruptible.
A spiritual covenant is holy and marriage is only the shadow, Most things in the physical like the tabernacle tent of Moses will be seen as shabby imitations
If I can truly love then I think I would operate properly in the physical sense as well. Where as you can do everything like Saul with great zeal and live by rules and yet be no where spiritually.
Where do you ever get the concept that you are in anyway going to attain spiritual state while you are in the flesh? it is a fundamental teaching of Ray. He shows us in the scriptures that we are in the process of being saved. You are Saul ....like we are....we are in a continuing state of overcoming ....one step at a time through grace.
beloved
Falconn003:
--- Quote from: WhoAmI on January 31, 2009, 06:13:34 PM ---If falling in love is a natural process then lust is involved. Desires of flesh do bring people together.
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N U T S !! unsalted at that.
Can you even give the readers an insight, to where and how these ideas came to be birth from your heart and mind, Who taught you this, or how did you reached this conclusion on your own ??
Be forthright and say from where are you coming up with these carnal ideals ??
And no Scripture, wonder why that is ??
Rodger
Ninny:
whoami,
??? ??? ???
I am with Rodger on this one. WHERE did you get these ideas? Someone has really given you a warped view of life!
Hope you get peace on this. It is hard to build a lasting, trusting relationship with these kinds of thoughts going on in your head!
Find Peace! :)
Kathy
rk12201960:
Hi WAI
Most time when questions are asked it involves the person or very close to that person.
When we are directly involved our sight becomes unsteady, thats why the bible directs us to see advice from the elders,,,
If I'm off target with this,,,ooops, but its the case more than not,,,
it helps to know because answers can be seasoned to give a correct response, if thats what your looking for and not justification..
Randy
deftarchangel:
--- Quote from: WhoAmI on January 31, 2009, 06:13:34 PM ---If falling in love is a natural process then lust is involved. Desires of flesh do bring people together. They may end up loving each other but still it is involved.
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--- Quote from: Falconn003 on January 31, 2009, 08:06:44 PM ---Can you even give the readers an insight, to where and how these ideas came to be birth from your heart and mind, Who taught you this, or how did you reached this conclusion on your own ??
Be forthright and say from where are you coming up with these carnal ideals ??
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I suppose the question is, is there a difference between sexual attraction and lust? Sexual attraction does factor into the equation of wanting to marry someone, though it is NOT (nor should it be) the sole factor in the whole equation.
Paul admits as much:
"The wife has not the jurisdiction of her own body, but the husband, yet likewise the husband also has not the jurisdiction of his own body, but the wife. Do not deprive one another, except sometime it should be by agreement for a period, that you should have leisure for prayer, and you may be the same again, lest Satan may be trying you because of your incontinence. Now this I am saying as a concession, not as an injunction." - 1 Cor. 7:4 - 6
"Now I am saying to the unmarried and the widows, that it is ideal for them if ever they should be remaining even as I. Yet if they are not controlling themselves, let them marry, for it is better to marry than to be on fire." - 1 Cor. 7:8 - 9
Now it's hard to know where to draw the line between the definitions of lusting and being sexually attracted to someone, because it's hard to believe you would want to marry someone you weren't physically (and by default, sexually) attracted to. At the same time, I do think there is a difference between lust and sexual attraction:
lust:
1) to turn upon a thing
2) to have a desire for, long for, to desire
3) to lust after, covet -- a) of those who seek things forbidden
So I believe lusting to be something that you desire that is forbidden. I get the impression that lust isn't just a sexual thing either, but can cross over to other material desires (like a lust for money or power or what not).
I don't know. I guess I'm not very helpful, so perhaps someone else can shed some light on this with Scripture?
:)
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