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A point regardding the suffering that God causes.
Marky Mark:
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Wow!!!! The Lord's will be done.....God is bringing good out of my wrong line of thinking.. As I have prayed about this whole matter I realize that all of your concerns are justified and I need to back away from this line of thinking. I'm not going to say that there isn't some truth to what I was promoting....But I'm convinced that I need to forget the whole matter...at least for now. I need to stick with the plain word of God and not think too much...but trust him to lead me into the truth. The one good thing that came of all this is the fact that my pride took a good hit....Please pray that the Lord will give me the grace to be more humble in the future. I thank all of you for your concern. I think he caused this whole thing just for this purpose. God knows I need a good dose of humbling from time to time.
Harry
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Sometimes we have to take a step or two back in order to see the big picture.When one seems to think that strong revelations have been revealed, one has a tendency to want anyone with ears to listen to our newfound wisdom's.More often than not we end up shooting ourselves in the foot,but our intentions are always seemingly good.The best advice that I could give to anyone that really cares about the Spiritual and not the carnal is to take a deep breath,sit back,and start a journey into Rays teachings with the attitude that I'm here to learn, not here to teach. I say this in all sincerity,if you want to know and understand Scripture,read bible-truths.com and pray for Spiritual guidance that the will of our Father gives http:// the Grace and Faith to understand this great knowledge, in your heart and mind.The road is a life long journey and not a immediate gratification that can be understood without due diligence.
Always in the Fathers Love and Will.
Peace...Mark
Akira329:
Hey Harry!
I hope your encouraged to continue here. This a great place to be.
I hope you stick with the word of God and continue to use your mind!
It will definitely be changed through this process.
Rom 12:2 And be not conformed to this world: but be ye transformed by the renewing of your mind, that ye may prove what is that good, and acceptable, and perfect, will of God.
Eph 4:23 And be renewed in the spirit of your mind;
Rom 12:16 Be of the same mind one toward another. Mind not high things, but condescend to men of low estate. Be not wise in your own conceits.
The wisdom of this world can cloud and confuse us and sometimes is downright contradictory to the word of God.
I like the way you think but dumb it down so that we all can be edified by it.
Also a lot of scripture will help in the future.
I only hope to help not harm.
It is not my intentions.
Antaiwan
judith collier:
Will there be different stages of glory in heaven? Say on who has suffered more and overcome, will that person be happier?
Harry:
Hi Judy,
I'm not sure if Ray has covered this issue or not.... I haven't read all of what he has written yet. I personally have read many scriptures that would indicate that our reward will be proportionate to our work . Here are a few, Matt 16:27 , 1 Cor 3:8 , Rev 22:12 . I hope these help.
Harry
aqrinc:
Judy, Harry,
Just to point out, the 3 Scriptures are not in isolation. Please also look at the text surrounding
them to get the context of what the rewards are for and whose work or increase it is.
Following the rule: no prophecy of Scripture is it's own interpretation.
2Pe 1:20 (MKJV)
knowing this first, that no prophecy of the Scripture came into being of its own private interpretation.
Mat 16:25 For whoever desires to save his life shall lose it, and whoever desires to lose his life for My sake shall find it.
Mat 16:26 For what is a man profited if he shall gain the whole world and lose his own soul? Or what shall a man give in exchange for his soul?
Mat 16:27 For the Son of Man shall come in the glory of His Father with His angels, and then He shall reward each one according to his works.
1Co 3:6 I have planted, Apollos watered, but God gave the increase.
1Co 3:7 So then neither is he who plants anything, nor he who waters, but God who gives the increase.
1Co 3:8 So he planting, and he watering, are one, and each one shall receive his own reward according to his own labor.
1Co 3:9 For of God we are fellow-workers, a field of God, and you are a building of God.
Rev 22:10 And he said to me, Do not seal the Words of the prophecy of this Book; for the time is at hand.
Rev 22:11 He acting unjustly, let him still act unjustly. And the filthy, let him be filthy still. And the righteous, let him be righteous still. And the holy, let him be holy still.
Rev 22:12 And behold, I am coming quickly, and My reward is with Me, to give to each according as his work is.
Rev 22:13 I am the Alpha and the Omega, the Beginning and the Ending, the First and the Last.
Rev 22:14 Blessed are they who do His commandments, that their authority will be over the Tree of Life, and they may enter in by the gates into the city.
george :).
--- Quote from: Judy on February 07, 2009, 12:20:05 PM ---Will there be different stages of glory in heaven? Say on who has suffered more and overcome, will that person be happier?
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--- Quote from: Harry on February 07, 2009, 01:14:23 PM ---
Hi Judy,
I'm not sure if Ray has covered this issue or not.... I haven't read all of what he has written yet. I personally have read many scriptures that would indicate that our reward will be proportionate to our work . Here are a few, Matt 16:27 , 1 Cor 3:8 , Rev 22:12 . I hope these help.
Harry
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