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EKnight:
Satan is only an instrument in God's plan for creation...he can do nothing of himself. Whether is was God or god that blinded unbelievers, all is of GOD [Eph 1:11, 2 Cor 5:18, Rom 11:36, etc]. God is still the ultimate cause.

Good point Marques.  However, this leads me to yet another question.  I am having a hard time deciding whether some of the sins we commit are the workings of our own naturally carnal mind/ways, or is Satan dining on us? My understanding is that God created us spiritually weak and Satan preys upon the spiritually weak, therefore, how are we to differentiate between our own spiritual weakness vs. Satan's powers taking hold of us?

I hope this makes sense.

Eileen

mharrell08:
Link to Lake of Fire series #15-A (http://bible-truths.com/lake15.html)

I was going to note particular sections, but the list was getting too long...probably just best to review the whole paper.

All the sins we commit originate from the heart, all of them.

Matt. 15:16-20  And Jesus said, Are ye also yet without understanding? Do not ye yet understand, that whatsoever entereth in at the mouth goeth into the belly, and is cast out into the draught? But those things which proceed out of the mouth come forth from the heart; and they defile the man. For out of the heart proceed evil thoughts, murders, adulteries, fornications, thefts, false witness, blasphemies: These are the things which defile a man: but to eat with unwashen hands defileth not a man.

Jer 17:9  The heart is deceitful above all things, and desperately wicked...

Satan only tempts us with the carnal lusts that are already in us...that why he 'deceives the whole world' [...the carnal mind is enmity against God: for it is not subject to the law of God, neither indeed can be (Rom 8:7)] but could not deceive Christ [...Get thee hence, Satan: for it is written, Thou shalt worship the Lord thy God, and him only shalt thou serve (Matt 4:10)] & [Who did no sin, neither was guile found in his mouth...(1 Pet 2:22)].

Satan tempts...we sin willfully.



Marques

Beloved:
Here is a YLt version that might help Eileen

(Jas 1:13)  Let no one say, being tempted--`From God I am tempted,'

(Jas 1:14)   for God is not tempted  of evil, and Himself doth tempt no one, and each one is tempted, by his own desires being led away and enticed,

(Jas 1:15)  afterward the desire having conceived, doth give birth to sin, and the sin having been perfected, doth bring forth death.

there are two words used The one underlined is

G551  ἀπείραστος  apeirastos  Thayer Definition:  1) that can not be tempted by evil, not liable to temptation to sin

all the other are

G3985  πειράζω  peirazō   Thayer Definition:  1) to try whether a thing can be done  1a) to attempt, endeavour  2) to try, make trial of, test: for the purpose of ascertaining his quantity, or what he thinks, or how he will behave himself  2a) in a good sense 2b) in a bad sense, to test one maliciously, craftily to put to the proof his feelings or judgments  2c) to try or test one’s faith

The Creator and Father is not capable of failing, so this word applies to man who is a natural sinning machine, and satan who is crafty a liar and a murderer from the beginning.

It reminds me of the Native American  Indian proverb about how bad things occur in ones life..... "it all depends on whch wolf you feed"

beloved

gene:
To All.........Has anyone concidered there is (NO) real being called SATAN, the word is an adjective (Adversary) and any can be an adversary. Jesus Called Peter SATAN,. Have you ever thought that Cain , who was a liar and murder from the beginning might have been  marked as SATAN. Because of His act of Killing His bother and then lying to cover it up. Jesus said Satan was a liar and a murder in the beginning. Maybe any one who is adversary of GOD is a SATAN. It all so say He is the prince of the power of the air, That could very easily be Man who controls all the world powers and even broadcasting all this evil we see and hear over the air ways. Maybe the Satan's and Devils are the people of the earth themselves, because God seams to hold man responsible for what he does, not some other source. Interesting subject.

peace and love....................................gene

aqrinc:

Gene,

Can you produce Scripture to back up that statement, below are just a few that refute it outright.
Someone needs to tell GOD and Make sure he informs Jesus Christ to stop using that name.

Job 1:6
There was a day when the sons of Elohim would come to station themselves
before Yahweh, and Satan came also in their midst.

Job 1:12
Hence Yahweh said to Satan, Behold, all that he has is in your hand, but you must
not put forth your hand upon himself. Then Satan went forth from Yahweh's presence.

Luk 4:8
And answering, Jesus said to Him, "Go away behind Me, Satan! It is written, The Lord
your God shall you be worshiping, and to Him only shall you be offering divine service."

Luk 10:18
Yet He said to them, "I beheld Satan, as lightning, falling out of heaven."

Rev 2:13
'"I am aware where you are dwelling-where the throne of Satan is-and you are holding
My name, and do not disown My faith in the days in which Antipas, My faithful witness,
was killed among you, where Satan is dwelling."

Rev 20:2
And he lays hold of the dragon, the ancient serpent, who is the Adversary and Satan,
and binds him a thousand years."

Rev 20:7
And whenever the thousand years should be finished, Satan will be loosed out of his jail."


george. ???

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