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JUDE 1:9--Help?
Lorine:
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Could this Melchizedek, the King of Righteousness possibly be similar
to the Man that went to see Abraham before the destruction of Sodom. Gen. 18:1 says "And the Lord appeared unto him". Verse 2
"And he lifted up his eyes and looked and, lo, three men stood by him." Verse 3 "And said, My Lord, if now I have found favour in thy
sight, pass not away from thy servant." Verse 22 "And the men turned their faces from thence, and went toward Sodom: but Abraham stood yet before the Lord." Verse 23 "And Abraham drew
near, and said, wilt thou also destroy the righteous with the wicked?" Verse 25 Abraham said "Shall not the Judge of all the earth do right?" Verse 26 "And the Lord said" Verse 33 "And the Lord
went his way, as soon as he had left communing with Abraham, and Abraham returned unto his place." Chapter 19:1 "And there came two angels to Sodom."
My thought is regarding this man that stayed and communed with Abraham after the other 2 left. Abraham called him Lord, and the Judge of all the earth. Was this man God in human form. Could this be the same as Melchizedek?
Lorine
mharrell08:
--- Quote from: Lorine on November 05, 2009, 08:41:10 PM ---My thought is regarding this man that stayed and communed with Abraham after the other 2 left. Abraham called him Lord, and the Judge of all the earth. Was this man God in human form. Could this be the same as Melchizedek?
Lorine
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Hello Lorine,
The angel in Gen 18 is a messenger from God, and represents Him...but He is not God in the flesh. Jesus was not made in the flesh until after John the Baptist was born [John 1:14].
Email reply from Ray (http://forums.bible-truths.com/index.php/topic,4925.msg38376.html#msg38376):
The "change in the law" had nothing to do with putting the tithing law under the Melchizedek priesthood! Where di you ever come up with that. Maybe it is YOU, Peter who needs to "research all sides of it Scripturally."
The "change in the law" had to do with Christ being now our High Priest, although He did NOT becomes a priest after the line of Levi/Aaron which was what THE LAW stipulated. Melchizedek was the HIGH PRIEST of the Canaanites (call the priest of the most high El--god, the Canaanite god Baal). This priest had the power and authority to TAX Abraham a tenth of all the spoils of war under his jurisdiction. Heb. 7:6 should read: "Yet he [Melchizedek] who is not of their genealogy has TITHED Abraham...." (See, Concordant Literal New Testament). Who do you mean Melchizedek "tithed" Abraham? He TAXED him. Jehovay God Almighty never requested ten percent of the pagan junk from war. Since when would God or HIS high priest desire the pagan gold and silver of Sodom. Give me a break. Was Abraham more righteous than GOD, in that he would not even touch the pagan belongings of Sodom? Did God say, "Oh, but I WANT IT, and I want 10% of the BEST of the spoi ls?" It's almost blasphemy.
And we know that Christ IS of the geneology of Abraham seeing that He is the seed spoken of in the promise [Gen 22:18, Gal 3:8]. Again Melchizedek is a shadow/type of Christ but not the reality.
Hope this helps,
Marques
G. Driggs:
--- Quote from: mharrell08 on November 05, 2009, 08:45:23 AM ---
Remember, 'all these things happened unto them for examples' [1 Cor 10:11] as well as 'These are the words which I [Jesus] spake unto you, while I was yet with you, that all things must be fulfilled, which were written in the law of Moses, and in the prophets, and in the psalms, concerning me' [Luke 24:44]. Christ is the spiritual fulfillment of all the shadows & types of the OT, including Melchizedek.
Hope this helps,
Marques
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What I thought was very fascinating was the fact that the prophets of old knew their lives (as it was revealed to them) were shadows, types, and examples for the Elect.
1Pe 1:10 The prophets searched very hard and with great care to find out about that salvation. They spoke about the grace that was going to come to you.
1Pe 1:11 They wanted to find out when that salvation would come. The Spirit of Christ in them was telling them about the sufferings of Christ that were going to come. He was also telling them about the glory that would follow.
1Pe 1:12 It was made known to the prophets that they were not serving themselves. Instead, they were serving you when they spoke about the things that you have now heard. Those who have preached the good news to you have told you those things. They have done it with the help of the Holy Spirit sent from heaven. Even angels long to look into those things.
Isnt that something? This was (good) news to me just recently.
Peace, G.Driggs
Pamela:
--- Quote from: mharrell08 on November 05, 2009, 08:45:23 AM ---
Hello Pamela,
Melchizedek is not Jesus and Jesus is not Melchizedek...he was only a 'shadow/type' of what Christ truly is. (...etc)
Hope this helps,
Marques
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Hi Marques
Previous teaching that has not been corrected can really mess one up.
Grateful thanks, Pamela
G. Driggs:
--- Quote from: Pamela on November 07, 2009, 08:52:37 PM ---
Hi Marques
Previous teaching that has not been corrected can really mess one up.
Grateful thanks, Pamela
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Hi Pamela, very good and truthful point you make. I think all of us has brought with us some hay and stubble (previous teaching) from Babylon which needs to be burned. I probably still have more that needs to be burned that I may not be aware of. I think it is going to be a lifetime process, one day at a time.
Peace, G.Driggs
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