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aqrinc:
--- Quote from: EJW on March 28, 2009, 10:24:04 AM ---
Hello Ron.
I keep the Sabbath. Ray said there is nothing wrong with that if you want to.
In my opinion, it is impossible for someone to keep the Sabbath every day of the
week. God Blessed the SEVENTH DAY, and He sanctified if ( set apart from the rest )
If a person goes to church on any other day af the week, They are not keeping
the day God set apart. He did not say go to church on His Sabath, He said ( DO NO
WORK ) on THAT DAY, A person does not keep a day holy by working on that day.
I Believe a person should ( work out your own salvation with fear and trembling: ) Phil.2:12
Have a
GREAT DAY.
Earl
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--- Quote ---I keep the Sabbath. Ray said there is nothing wrong with that if you want to.
In my opinion, it is impossible for someone to keep the Sabbath every day of the
week.
--- End quote ---
Hi Earl,
Ray does explain in quite detailed fashion in the paper below, what you are using is a half quote that is incorrect.
Excerpt from: Keeping SABBATH: http://forums.bible-truths.com/index.php/topic,6310.msg50887.html#msg50887
HOW MANY DAYS DO WE ENTER INTO GOD’S REST
So people ask me about everything from circumcision to fasting, Passover, the Lord’s supper, baptism and all these things. They ask me a lot, ‘do you keep the Sabbath day.’ In other words do I stop working and stop doing everything on Friday night until Sat. night, don’t go anywhere, don’t do anything, just study and pray or whatever and go to church.
So they say, ‘do you keep the Sabbath?’ I say absolutely, everyday of the week. They don’t know what to make of that. I keep the Sabbath everyday of the week. How do I keep the Sabbath everyday of the week? Because I know what the Sabbath means. If you know what the Sabbath means, you can not possibly keep it on Saturday only, you can’t. If you know what it means and you do it on Saturday only, it’s proof that you don’t know what it means. And I’ll show you that. If you can’t keep the Sabbath on everyday, then you are not keeping the Sabbath in the spirit of truth at all.
Further you can’t do any of these things. We’ll go through these things, the Lord’s supper, communion, what the Catholics call mass and so on.
I made a list of physical rituals that carnal-minded Christians like to do, according to their faith. Well depending on which religion, but sooner or later everybody does some of this. The physical letter of the law can, in fact, deceive you.
Tithing - pseudo tithing
Religious pilgrimages
Circumcision
Holy Day observance
Clean and unclean foods
Prayer cloths
Foot-washing
Fasting
Alter calls
Water baptism
Making vows
Anointing oil
Burning incense
Doing penance
Speaking in gibberish
Lighting candles
Pictures
Icons
Idols
Holy water
Holy smoke
Confession
Last rights
Sign of the cross
Rosary beads
Wearing phylacteries
The Lord’s Supper
Sabbath keeping
New moons
Prayer wheels
Religious junk
--- Quote ---I Believe a person should ( work out your own salvation with fear and trembling: ) Phil.2:12
--- End quote ---
You have to read both verses and understand all the words or it gets really confusing.
Php 2:12
So that, my beloved, as ye always obey, not as in my presence only, but now much more in my absence, with fear and trembling your own salvation work out,
Php 2:13
for God it is who is working in you both to will and to work for His good pleasure.
Note: It is a comma not a period between verse 12 and verse 13.
george :)
mhykx:
--- Quote from: EJW on March 28, 2009, 10:24:04 AM ---
Hello Ron.
I keep the Sabbath. Ray said there is nothing wrong with that if you want to.
In my opinion, it is impossible for someone to keep the Sabbath every day of the
week. God Blessed the SEVENTH DAY, and He sanctified if ( set apart from the rest )
If a person goes to church on any other day af the week, They are not keeping
the day God set apart. He did not say go to church on His Sabath, He said ( DO NO
WORK ) on THAT DAY, A person does not keep a day holy by working on that day.
I Believe a person should ( work out your own salvation with fear and trembling: ) Phil.2:12
Have a
GREAT DAY.
Earl
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Hi Earl,
Technically, since I do not work (i.e. I don't go to office to work) from Friday night to Saturday night, I am also "observing" the sabbath. But here is a thing. This "do not do any work" in the seventh day, physically speaking, is being debated even among sabbath keeping believers. You might already have encountered such debate, but for discussion purposes, allow me to inject some of the issues.
1. Do you buy (any commercial merchandise) during the Sabbath? If you do, you break the Sabbath.
2. Do you watch TV for entertainment during the Sabbath? If you do, you break the Sabbath.
3. Do you allow your kids to go to school, or even do their assignments, on Sabbath? If you do, you break the Sabbath.
4. Do you let your wife do heavy household work, like clothes washing, ironing during the Sabbath? If you do, you break the Sabbath.
5. Do you work (litereally work, i.e. you don't idle yourself) from Sunday to Monday? If you don't, you break the Sabbath.
I can go on the list. But I think you already get the point.
God does want us indeed to enter into his rest. Not the physical rest but the Spiritual rest.
God is resting on the seventh day and He wants us to rest also on that day......and you know what? That day is today! :)
These two great articles will help.
http://forums.bible-truths.com/index.php/topic,6310.0.html – Keeping the Sabbath
http://bible-truths.com/lake16-D3.htm - The Sermon on the Mount is for You
You have a great day today!
-Mike
Ocean:
HI All,
Since coming to BT in January, it was my heartfelt prayer that God show me whether i should go back to church or not. My husband still lives the 'worldly' life so he opts to cook on sundays while my son & i attend church. Now i've opted to stay back and help him [he's not complaining either] but my in-laws strongly think my son is missing out on his spiritual learning.
But here's the irony. I grew up in a family that rarely went to church since both parents were working. Sunday was always a family day where we all rested. My parents and older brother would occasionally debate certain biblical issues [in a good way]....my interest was far from it. I am blessed to have had parents who were ideal role models of stability, hard work and family focused.
On the other hand, my husband grew up going to church twice on Sundays until he got married....27 yrs,lol!! In the islands it is a cardinal SIN if you don't wear white clothes and attend am/pm services.....the village will ostracize you.YET!! I have witnessed strife, alcoholism & cursing in his family.
I've come to realize that 'God does not dwell in buildings made by man'. And 'He who has began a good work in you will see it to completion'....no man or institution can mediate that...Jesus IS our Mediator.
For me, at the end of each working day, nothing pleases me more than my quite time in the Word & Ray's teachings. Should i be too tired than i dose off 'speaking to Him' about everything and anything. If that is sabbath than that's how i observe it....no routine or rituals.
Cheers,
Ocean
Robin:
Romans 8:2-4
2because through Christ Jesus the law of the Spirit of life set me free from the law of sin and death. 3For what the law was powerless to do in that it was weakened by the sinful nature, God did by sending his own Son in the likeness of sinful man to be a sin offering. And so he condemned sin in sinful man, 4in order that the righteous requirements of the law might be fully met in us, who do not live according to the sinful nature but according to the Spirit.
Hebrews 8
The High Priest of a New Covenant
1The point of what we are saying is this: We do have such a high priest, who sat down at the right hand of the throne of the Majesty in heaven, 2and who serves in the sanctuary, the true tabernacle set up by the Lord, not by man.
3Every high priest is appointed to offer both gifts and sacrifices, and so it was necessary for this one also to have something to offer. 4If he were on earth, he would not be a priest, for there are already men who offer the gifts prescribed by the law. 5They serve at a sanctuary that is a copy and shadow of what is in heaven. This is why Moses was warned when he was about to build the tabernacle: "See to it that you make everything according to the pattern shown you on the mountain." 6But the ministry Jesus has received is as superior to theirs as the covenant of which he is mediator is superior to the old one, and it is founded on better promises.
7For if there had been nothing wrong with that first covenant, no place would have been sought for another. 8But God found fault with the people and said:
"The time is coming, declares the Lord,
when I will make a new covenant
with the house of Israel
and with the house of Judah.
9It will not be like the covenant
I made with their forefathers
when I took them by the hand
to lead them out of Egypt,
because they did not remain faithful to my covenant,
and I turned away from them, declares the Lord.
10This is the covenant I will make with the house of Israel
after that time, declares the Lord.
I will put my laws in their minds
and write them on their hearts.
I will be their God,
and they will be my people.
11No longer will a man teach his neighbor,
or a man his brother, saying, 'Know the Lord,'
because they will all know me,
from the least of them to the greatest.
12For I will forgive their wickedness
and will remember their sins no more."
13By calling this covenant "new," he has made the first one obsolete; and what is obsolete and aging will soon disappear.
aqrinc:
We need to read all the words there too. The New Covenant; is what is New not The Law; The Law Is Spiritual and never Changes.
The Old Covenant was with physical man needed to be changed (Types and Shadows) to really show the gulf between GOD and man. Israel (man) had to keep their part to earn the Promised Land.
The New Covenant Is Spiritual; GOD Keeps It in us:
Heb: 8: 10This is the covenant I will make with the house of Israel after that time, declares the Lord. I will put my laws in their minds and write them on their hearts. I will be their God, and they will be my people.
george. :)
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