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Marky Mark:
--- Quote from: EKnight on May 10, 2009, 08:48:03 AM ---Roy,
I thought the same thing when I read:
"For if we sin willfully after that we have received the knowledge of the truth, there remains no more sacrifice for sins. But a certain fearful looking for of JUDGMENT and fiery indignation [the lake of fire] which shall devour the adversaries" (Heb. 10:26-27).
I don't know that I "sin willfully", I just sin, I am a "sinning machine". So when I read a scripture like the one above, I too am back to the drawing board of knowledge. I can't figure out how others read this and easily reconcile it in their minds. It brings forth questions in my mind and yet others seem to either just disregard it or understand it better than me?
--- Quote ---It's having to constantly question these things that makes me just want to throw in the towel.
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Someone tries to answer one of my simple questions with scripture and I just end up with more questions. It's just frustrating and I am sick of saying "oh I guess God just doesn't want me to see or hear yet". At times I am convinced God is drawing me away. :(
Eileen
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Eileen,email to Ray.Hope it helps your understanding some. :)
http://www.forums.bible-truths.com/index.php/topic,1710.0.html
Hi Ray,
Can u please write an article on Faith, there seems to be a confusion about what is faith and how it operates, Im sure youir article will clear a lot of things, like the other articles have done.
God bless
Noxolo
Dear Noxolo:
I would love to write a paper on "faith," but at present I am engrossed in several other projects. Let me "bottom line" it for you in a few statements.
Faith is the assurance that God's Word is Truth and that God will do all that He has promised. This assurance (faith) is a GIFT of God and cannot be obtained by any human endeavor (Eph. 2:8-9). Reading and hearing the Scriptures can increase your faith, BUT ONLY BECAUSE GOD SUPERNATURALLY GIVES YOU THAT FAITH AND ASSURANCE, as you read and hear. Through faith you will both know God's will and live God's will. You must go to God for faith--there is no other source of true spiritual faith and assurance of God's trustworthiness.
God be with you,
Ray
Peace...Mark
EKnight:
Marky mark
My problem is I keep coming here for understanding or at least for validation of my understanding. But when I read the bible, and if I trust in God alone, then my understanding should not need validation from men. However, when I do look for validation in my understanding, I don't get it. I only find confusion. In other words, I think I understand something and then I read things here and I don't see the same thing that others see and then I abandon what I thought I knew for what someone says something means and that doesn't feel right. Do you understand what I am trying to say? :-\
Eileen
Marky Mark:
--- Quote from: EKnight on May 10, 2009, 09:34:58 AM ---Marky mark
My problem is I keep coming here for understanding or at least for validation of my understanding. But when I read the bible, and if I trust in God alone, then my understanding should not need validation from men. However, when I do look for validation in my understanding, I don't get it. I only find confusion. In other words, I think I understand something and then I read things here and I don't see the same thing that others see and then I abandon what I thought I knew for what someone says something means and that doesn't feel right. Do you understand what I am trying to say? :-\
Eileen
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I think I know what you are saying Eileen. Before coming to the Truths of the Lord I too was in a constant flux on my understanding of the Word. When God starts to work in our lives we Truly only begin to realize that what we have, and learn, of the Spirit, can only come from Him. Reading Rays material was how God finally opened my eyes to His ways and what needed to be worked out [in myself].We can only rely on our Father to give us the eyes to see and understand His way and what ultimately we are, as His children.All in His time.
I would suggest spending as much time as you can on bible-truths and meditate on what you read and ask our Father for His Divine guidance in what He wants you to know of the Spirit.It takes discipline and faith to accomplish that in ones heart and mind.
Peace and Understanding...Mark
Kat:
Hi Eileen,
Act 8:29 And the Spirit said to Philip, "Go up and join this chariot."
v.30 So Philip ran to him, and heard him reading Isaiah the prophet, and asked, "Do you understand what you are reading?"
v. 31 And he said, "How can I, unless some one guides me?" And he invited Philip to come up and sit with him.
I think we need someone to teach us in the beginning until we learn the Scriptures for ourself. But this process can take a long time, I was in church for 25 years and I was learning the Scriptures all that time, but not the truth. When I came out it was much easier to pick up on the truth, because I had quite an extensive background of reading Scripture.
--- Quote ---I don't know that I "sin willfully", I just sin, I am a "sinning machine". So when I read a scripture like the one above, I too am back to the drawing board of knowledge.
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There is a big difference in our attitude to sin I believe. We can not become complacent to sin after learning the truth. It would be an easy thing to just fall back into our old ways and just go with the flow of this world. But I would think having known the truth it would be hard to not know if we were sinking into sin and wouldn't that be sinning willfully? It was preordained to happen, but you still go through all the motions of having something that pulls you away into sin.
http://forums.bible-truths.com/index.php/topic,7414.0.html ---------------
Rom 11:21 For if God spared not the natural branches, take heed lest He also spare not you.
v. 22 Behold therefore the goodness and severity of God: on them which fell, severity; but toward you, goodness, if you continue in His goodness: otherwise you also shall be cut off.
But we are not at the end yet. Is it conceivable that some of them that He was talking to were cut off? Yes I think so, you go to the book of Hebrews and it says if you sin willfully, willingly, knowingly, wantingly after you have come to the knowledge of the truth, there is no more sacrifice for you (Heb. 10:26). Is that the end though? Remember God declares the end, the total end from the beginning, when death is swallowed up in victory? Is that the end? No if you read further back in Hebrews, there is no more sacrifice for you, BUT! But what? JUDGMENT!
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mercy, peace and love
Kat
EKnight:
thanks guys, I didn't mean for this thread to turn into a thread about me. Sorry for the derailment.
Eileen
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