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cjwood:
hi patricia,
i believe that ray smith has specified that no one is savED, as in the past tense, but that all will be saved upon their resurrection. being saved requires a full repentance and a total living of a Godly life, with no more sin. this can't happen as long as we are in our earthly vessels. the elect go through their judgements in their lives now, while the rest of mankind goes through their judgement in the lake of fire, second death. with regards to your husband, don't ever stop hoping and praying that God will draw him unto Him, and shine the Light of His Grace into your husband's heart. all you can do is live a life of love in front of your husband (and behind his back too  ;D.) my husband is an unbeliever. i used to try and get him to understand what Truths God has revealed to me through ray smith, but now, after having it confirmed in my spirit that it is not my place to try and draw my husband to God, i just pray for God's mercy and grace towards my husband, and i live an example of His Love. we will ALL be saved from the beast that is our carnal minds, and we will be made into His image. don't ever give up hope patricia! with God all things are possible.

claudia

aqrinc:

Hi Patricia,

I wish there was a formula for making others have sight and hearing that GOD presently gives us ability to use. Or maybe not, this is an experience of evil that GOD Is giving All the sons of humanity, to humble us.

Here is a great paper that Ray wrote to answer your question about why.
Excerpt from: WINNING SOULS FOR JESUS?

http://bible-truths.com/souls.htm

I'm asked why I teach the Truths of God if "All is of God," and God does all the choosing and drawing? Because that is HOW God operates. God uses the foolishness of preaching as one of His means by which He communicates with His Elect:

"Where is the wise? Where is the scribe? Where is the disputer of this world? Has not God made foolish [Gk: ‘stupid’] the wisdom of this world? For after that in the wisdom of God the world by wisdom knew not God, it pleased God by the foolishness of preaching to save them that believe" (I Cor. 1:20-21).

And it is God who grants us faith as His gift (Eph. 2:8), to believe this "foolish preaching" of God’s true servants of the Gospel.

Certainly we should all follow Peter’s admonition to:

"…be ready always to give an answer to every man that asks you a reason of the hope that is in you with meekness and fear [reverence]" (I Pet. 3:15).

But God has not called all to be teachers:

"Not all are apostles. Not all are prophets. Not all are teachers" (I Cor. 12:29, Concordant Literal N.T.).

LIGHT AND SALT DON’T ARGUE OR MAKE NOISE

"Ye are the salt of the earth… Ye are the light of the world. A city that is set on an hill cannot be hid… Let your light so shine before men, that they may see your good works and glorify your Father which is in heaven" (Matt. 5:1,14,16).

Salt does not make any noise, and light does not argue Scriptures. Neither salt nor light makes any sound whatsoever. Maybe there is a lesson in there.

Too many people learn a few truths of God and think that they are ready to take on the world. They usually start by trying to embarrass their Pastor with their new-gained knowledge. Usually they fall flat on their face on the very first try. It’s all about motivation. If your motivation is carnal, God will not back you. Yes, I know, all of you are saying: "But my motivation is to show them God’s truths." Yes, sure, I understand, but THEY DON’T WANT TO HEAR GOD’S TRUTHS, and you already know this, so what is your point? Leave them alone and let them taste your salt and see your light and admire your good works, and perchance they will even praise God for your new-found humility,

You will never argue anyone into accepting the truths of God’s Word. As salesmen are often taught: "You might win the argument, but loose the sale," so don’t argue. And this: "He who is persuaded against his will; is of the same opinion still."

I receive a lot of emails from people who beg me to come to their rescue because they are about to have a second session with their pastor or friend, but have failed miserably on the first go-round. Now they want me to give them the ammunition they need to do a slam-dunk on their second attempt to embarrass their pastor or friend. Give it up—that attitude is wrong. Such a carnal exhibition of prideful flesh is akin to someone looking for a street fight merely because he has just acquired a black belt in karate.

HOW TO DEMONSTRATE YOUR KNOWLEDGE OF THE TRUTH

I personally know a man who has his little wife working two jobs to support their family so that he can study the Scriptures and enter into doctrinal debates with other Christians at the local Cafe as a perpetual hobby. Notice the admonition of the Apostle Peter:

"Dearly beloved, I beseech you as strangers and pilgrims, abstain from fleshly lusts, which war against the soul; having your conversation [Gk: ‘conduct’] honest [Gk: ‘honorable’] among the Gentiles: that, whereas they speak against you as evildoers, they may BY YOUR GOOD WORKS, [Not your clever Bible arguments], which they shall behold, glorify God in the day of visitation" (I Pet. 2:11-12).

Your good works and righteous character will pay dividends to others eventually—if not in this life, then in the Judgment.

george. :)

Kat:

Hi Patricia,

There are only a very few called in this age.  God is preparing only this relatively small number of people to serve and rule with Him when He returns.  These Elect are being called out ahead of when the rest on humanity will be save.  Every human being is totally carnal minded and indeed enmity against God at first.

Rom 8:7  Because the carnal mind is enmity against God: for it is not subject to the law of God, neither indeed can be.

It is only a very few who are being prepared now that He is giving His Holy Spirit to so that they have understanding of the truth.

Mat 13:16  But blessed are your eyes, for they see, and your ears, for they hear.
v. 17  Truly, I say to you, many prophets and righteous men longed to see what you see, and did not see it, and to hear what you hear, and did not hear it.

As far as your husband goes, surely you can always hope and pray that God will open His eyes too and you are a living example of the way to live before him.  But I do feel if we recieve this miracle of miracles, to be called out in this age, we should strive with all our being to obtain it.  Even though we know it is not merely by our own desire that we receive it, but by His grace and His spirit in us that makes it possible.  Here is how Paul viewed this "high calling."

Php 3:8  Yea doubtless, and I count all things but loss for the excellency of the knowledge of Christ Jesus my Lord: for whom I have suffered the loss of all things, and do count them but dung, that I may win Christ,
v. 9  And be found in him, not having mine own righteousness, which is of the law, but that which is through the faith of Christ, the righteousness which is of God by faith:
v. 10  That I may know him, and the power of his resurrection, and the fellowship of his sufferings, being made conformable unto his death;
v. 11  If by any means I might attain unto the resurrection of the dead.
v. 12  Not as though I had already attained, either were already perfect: but I follow after, if that I may apprehend that for which also I am apprehended of Christ Jesus.
v. 13  Brethren, I count not myself to have apprehended: but this one thing I do, forgetting those things which are behind, and reaching forth unto those things which are before,
v. 14  I press toward the mark for the prize of the high calling of God in Christ Jesus.

At the very least you know your husband will be saved with the rest of humanity.  That should give you great comfort to know that God will save all and that nobody will be lost in the end.

1Tim 4:10  For to this end we toil and strive, because we have our hope set on the living God, who is the Savior of all men, especially of those who believe.

mercy, peace and love
Kat

Roy Martin:
We talk about the blind in the churches and the Pastors that mislead the flock. We would so much like to make them see the truth. Many times it seems as if we are putting them down. We say we just cant believe what they are being taught. How can they be so blind, that sort of thing. We have friends and family that we would love to change according to our will and ways and truth, but its Gods will that things are the way they are. Im sure that the people coming out of Egypt could all see the cloud and Gods miracles and provisions. It would also seem that they talked among themselves with those that rebelled, trying to convince them and remind them of the cloud that was so obvious, but they just could not see, and continued to see only what God wanted them to see and vise verso.
 Its still the same today. Shouldn't we be thanking God for the blind? Since they are an example,isn't it for us to learn from it and not put them down by going on and on about how blind they are. I would love for all to know the truth in this life, but why should I when its Gods will that they be blind? I pray for the blind all the time but does it do me any good? What ever the answer is to that, Im still going to pray for my loved ones that God work in their lives, but on the other hand, He is working in their lives by blinding them as an example to us, and His purpose and plan and will. Few see and know the truth, but many are blinded. We are blessed to see and hear. Shouldn't we also consider it a blessing that so many be blind and not hear? Its all God and His working in all for the good.


Roy


   

Marlene:
Roy, yes I agree with all you said. We all were blind. God is a fair judge. He will only correct as he sees is needed to change a person. It is his plan and he will have his plan over mans plan. I too, will pray for my family. But, God is teaching us so if he does choose us . The blind will all be in the care of Jesus and the elect. Its just that we have been taught God cannot handle his children with out doing something physical to them. Its the spirtual he is interested in not our flesh. The elect have to learn how to judge like God. He is not going to have one who judges like man. We will judge with the spirit not beat someone up physically.  But, still to this day Babylon just cannot see God as any different then man. Again, its God's will. Just, imagine all the glory God will receive when he saves humanity.

In His Love,
Marlene

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