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love_magnified:
Those are great examples Jerreye. Do you have info on the word derivative of aidos. I don't have esword with me. I'd like to know the roots.

Daniel:
I like this one...

Imperceptible? Perpetual (with an imperceptible ending)?

Would make complete sense not being able to see to "The End" of it  :wink:

Then again, if one could, I wonder if He would be "without end" only in Himself? :lol:

Peace

Daniel

jerreye:
Hi love_magnified,

The root (according to Strong's) is "Aei", which seems to mean "perpetually, incessantly, invariably".

Here is an example which I think goes to show that this word Aidios does have the connotation of being "perpetual/on-going", but certainly not "never-ending", as is proved by Jude 6.

Mark 15:8 (KJV) And the multitude crying aloud began to desire him to do as he had ever [GK: "AEI"]done unto them.

Certainly the use of the term "ever" in this verse is NOT speaking of "NEVER-ENDINGNESS" or "ETERNITY". The words "always" or "usually" would have been a much better choice.

Mark 15:8 (KJV) And the multitude crying aloud began to desire him to do as he had always/usually [GK: "AEI"]done unto them.

Some might think: "well, doesn't the term 'always' mean "eternal"? Not true. Just because someone always did certain things in the past, doesn't by neccesity mean that he will continue to do these same things "for eternity". That should be self-evident when we think about it for more than just a few seconds :)

Can we give a sense of "eternal" by using the word "always"? Sure...

"God will ALWAYS love us"... plus... "God will ETERNALLY love us"...

Both above are acceptible...

BUT, look at this...

"Men will ALWAYS be evil, UNTIL God heals them"

The above is true.

The following is NOT true:

"Men will be ETERNALLY evil, UNTIL God heals them?"

Now we are back to square one. The above is an obvious contradiction, once we truly understand the meaning of the words "EVERLASTING/ETERNAL".

"Eternal", by its very definition and usage means NEVER-ENDING. Somthing can NOT be: "Eternal...UNTIL". That would render the term "Eternal" usless, don't you think?

God Bless,
Jeremy

Sorin:
Well you guys can discuss this until the cows come home but I didn't get confused by Ray's answer. In fact I agreed with it. Nowhere in Scripture (not the Bible) are we promised "Eternal Life". Thus "Age Abiding" is the same as immortality because we will never die again, but unlike God ( who is Eternal)
we all had a beginning. That's how I look at it.

Take care,
Sorin

chrissiela:
That’s great Sorin!!

Since you understand it so well maybe you can explain a few things to me.

You say:

--- Quote ---Thus "Age Abiding" is the same as immortality
--- End quote ---


How are they the same? Does everyone get "age-abiding" (or aionios) life? Who does get it? When do they get it?

Thank you in advance.

Chrissie

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