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Why did Jesus say "why do you call me good?"
GinaMilan:
--- Quote from: wonderment on May 19, 2010, 08:58:58 PM ---"Why do you call me good?" Jesus answered. "No one is good--except God alone. (Mark 10:18)
I heard a muslim man use this verse as his argument that Jesus was only a prophet and not God.
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Okay, I don't know about anyone else, but I'm learning to "always be prepared to give an answer to every man that asketh you a reason of the hope that is in you." 1 Pet. 3:15
And since the original poster wasn't asking a question, I see no reason to respond. ;)
GinaMilan:
Yes, Marques, you're helping a lot!
--- Quote --- Jesus prayed to the Father to be restored with the glory which He had before the world was. But He does not say the glory that He 'only' had before the world was.
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Okay, right: "a statement of fact is not a statement of limitation."
I've been at BT site for seven years and the most basic, elementary things are only now clicking. (It's comforting to know that "not many wise are called." ha)
Listen to this bit of "wisdom": All this time, I have been mistakenly thinking that Jesus became the only begotten Son of God at the very moment He became flesh (conceived in Mary's womb). Obviously that's incorrect. He became the only Begotten Son of God from the moment He came out from the Father (duh), which took place before the world began. (And, yes, in case there's any misunderstanding, I am aware that God was not always a Father, but became a Father after Jesus came out from Him. I hope that made sense.)
My misunderstanding stems from the fact that Christendom never taught that Jesus was the God of the OT, or that He even came out from the Father as a created being (He just always was...). So when I heard for the first time that Jesus was the God of the OT (the Word/Jehovah/Creator), I believed that, but I also inadvertently limited Him in my mind's eye to those things and neglected to include the fact that He was still the Son of God (and always will be).
I don't know about the original poster, but I'm satisfied that Jesus is God and is the Son of God and was the Creator and the God of the OT (the Word) and that He emptied Himself of the Glory he had with His Father before the world began, in order to be made flesh and carry out His earthly ministry humbly so that He could die as a human. I don't know exactly when He emptied Himself, but....
"I won't think about that today, I'll think about that tomorra. ~Scarlett O'Hara ;D
"But though we have known Christ after the flesh, yet now henceforth know we him no more." (2 Cor. 5:16) He is risen.
Thank you again for your attention to my questions, Marques. I think I'm finished here unless you have anything you want to confirm or correct. I'd appreciate that too.
Gina
UPDATE: I've been saying, above, that Jesus was the Creator since He did the creating, but I just noticed something I missed in the 2007 Nashville conference that Ray points out: "Who is the Savior of the world? Jesus Christ. God is the Savior of the world! Yes Jesus Christ is the channel through who it comes. But God almighty is the Savior of the world. He’s also the Creator. We are actually going to find out, who actually did the creating? Christ. But who is the Creator? God the Father, ok. "
Source: http://forums.bible-truths.com/index.php/topic,4472.0.html
mharrell08:
--- Quote from: GinaMilan on May 26, 2010, 10:02:31 PM ---Thank you again for your attention to my questions, Marques. I think I'm finished here unless you have anything you want to confirm or correct. I'd appreciate that too.
Gina
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Glad to have helped...all glory to God. :)
Marques
Deborah-Leigh:
--- Quote ---Righty-O, Arc. Jesus is definitely not His [own] Father. I hope it doesn't appear to anyone that I was saying that.
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You do not appear to me that you are not understanding or that you lack in the preparations for comprehending who God is. You are well studied, well enough groomed in spirit and in Truth Dear Gina, to be recognised by me as a child of the Kingdom of God. Rest, then assured. Others may not find you to be a child of God but those others you are not among!
Your point that
--- Quote --- And still, one of Jesus' titles is "Father":
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is evidence of your grooming, fidelity and comprehensive insight into the Ways and Purposes of God who is Father of ALL with His Son as our Father and the Father of Jesus Christ as His Father who dragges us to His Son.
Jesus Christ is our Father and His Father is The Great Grand Father of ALL. 8)
Amen
Arc
GinaMilan:
Thank you, Arc. :)
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