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Hope of the Resurrection
One Love:
Continued from my last email:
Mr. Smith mentions this in the transcript "Does all mean all"
"He did not come for that purpose and this is going to open up a giant revelation when I come to this in my series about, when Christ comes, what is He coming back to do? It’s not what is being taught. It is not. It is going to be something totally different."
I can't wait for this paper if it's already posted, can someone direct me to it!
Kat:
Hi 1Luv,
--- Quote ---"For EVERY ONE [sinner and saint] shall be salted with FIRE" (Mark 9:49).
This is after ALL be resurrected, right!
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The fire that we all are judged by is the same fire.
Heb 12:29 For our God is a consuming fire.
This is from the article D4 Hell: Gehenna Fire Judgment, it should answer your question.
http://bible-truths.com/lake16-D4.htm ----------
Now then, when "must we all appear before the judgment sea of Christ?" When the whole world appears before it? NO. Let's read the verse:
"For it is written, As I live, says the Lord, every knee shall bow to Me, and every tongue shall confess to God. So then every one of us shall give account of himself to God."
Do we for the first time appear before the dais of Christ when the rest of the world appears before His dais? No, of course not. If we blow our knee to Christ for the first time in the White Throne Judgment with the rest of the world, we won't be in the kingdom of God.We had better be "bowing the knee to Jesus" right NOW.
"...Behold now is the accepted time; Behold, now is the day ['a day'-Rotherham, Diaglott, Young's, Concordant] of salvation" (II Cor. 6:2).
"And the times of this ignorance God winked at; but now commands all men every where to repent" (Acts 17:30).
"And that, knowing the time, that now it is high time to awake out of sleep, for now is our salvation nearer than when we believed" (Rom. 13:11).
"Which in time past were not a people, but are now the people of God: which had not obtained mercy, but now have obtained mercy" (I Pet. 2:10).
"For if we would judge ourselves [now] we should not be judged. But when we are judged, we are chastened of the Lord, that we should not be condemned [later] with the world [later in the Great White Throne Judgment]" (I Cor. 11:31-32).
"For the TIME IS COME [now] that judgment must begin at the House of God..." (I Pet. 4:17).
"...for the time is at hand" (Rev. 1:3 and 22:10).
There can be no argument against the fact that God's Elect are to "bow their knee" NOW in this Church age or we will find ourselves in the next age when, "Because He has appointed a day in the which He will judge the world in righteousness..." Acts 17:31). During our calling, we stand before the Judgment of Jesus and give an account daily of the works done in our flesh. How do we actually do this? Paul instructs us: "For if we would judge ourselves..." (I Cor. 15:11:31). This is how we are to be judged.
Notice how Paul's statement is in perfect agreement with that of Jesus: "And if your right eye offend you, [you] pluck it out... And if your right hand offend you, [you] cut it off..." (Matt. 5:29-30).
Isn't that amazing? That's how Jesus Judges US. He helps us judge OURSELVES! It is voluntary. But if we do not volunteer to judge ourselves, guess what? "...for it is profitable for you that one of your members should perish [voluntarily] and not that your whole body should be cast [Gk: ballo-'throw violently or intensely' against your will] into Gehenna [fire]" (Ver. 30)
"For if we would judge ourselves we should not be judged... we should not be condemned with the world" (I Cor. 11:31-32).
In God's due time, all humanity will voluntarily desire with their whole heart to be a member of the Family of God. No one will be forced in or out of God's Family.
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--- Quote ---I can't wait for this paper if it's already posted, can someone direct me to it!
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I don't think Ray has covered that particular thing, yet. But he is working on several papers right now, so maybe it won't be too long.
mercy, peace and love
Kat
One Love:
Thank you Kat
You're a blessing to this forum, I pray that GOD gives you added wisdom & understanding of the scriptures.
After Mr. Smith quoted (Rev. 20: 5), was there any research into this scripture to find out "whether this verse is really Scripture or whether it was added to the manuscript"
Cheers & happy holidays.
Kat:
Hi 1Luv,
We do have a list of Scriptures that are not found in the oldest manuscripts, Sinaitic and Vatican, thus considered spurious (not by the authors, but added later). This list was researched and compiled by Professor C. Tischendorf, it can be found at this link
http://forums.bible-truths.com/index.php/topic,6638.0.html
Ray had just located this list at the '07 Conference 'How We Got The Bible.' He did discuss this verse a bit, here is the excerpt.
http://forums.bible-truths.com/index.php/topic,5815.msg49001.html#msg49001 ---
Believe me most people that teach and write books on these prophecies, don’t have a clue. Not only do they not have the answers, they don’t even know what the problems are.
But these verses here;
Rev 20:4 …And they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years.
v. 5 But the rest of the dead did not live again until the thousand years were finished. This is the first resurrection.
Both of these verses can not be true, there is a problem here. I racked my brain, in my spare time, but I kept it in the back of my mind for a long time. There is a problem, that won’t work and I can’t make it work. It doesn’t fit, there is no way to make this thing fit. Then some months ago, now I know why it, “But the rest of the dead did not live again until the thousand years were finished” won’t fit. It’s not Scripture! Tischendorf has it right there.
Rev. 20:5 But the rest of the dead lived not again until the thousand years were finished...
It’s not in the Sinaiticus. So I said, okay now we’re moving again. We’re a little closer to the Truth.
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mercy, peace and love
Kat
Deborah-Leigh:
Your question is not trivial or shallow Samson!
Affirmation ~ :)
Where IS Jesus Christ? ..............Jesus Christ is IN you? 2 Cor 13:5
................................................ Christ IN you, the hope of glory. Col 1:27
.................................................The Spirit of God dwells IN you? 1 Cor 3:16
My hope of The Resurrection is to abide and dwell in His Kingdom more fully with each passing day of my life. My hope is that before my pysical life should end, that my spiritual life within, is completed in Him. My hope is to be part of His Kingdom that shall reign upon the earth when He comes to raise all who have died before me and all that may die after me.
Blessings
Arc
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