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mharrell08:
--- Quote from: Ian on July 05, 2011, 11:16:05 PM ---Oh, when I wrote "Could something critique this for me?" I was alluding to the page as a whole, not the text.
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Hello Ian,
I removed the link because one of our forum rules is not to post links to other teachings/preaching. This forum is not for critiquing other sites but to discuss what we learn from Bible Truths.
Hope you understand,
Marques
Ian:
More research... *sigh* I know in my heart and my mind that Ray is right, I just don't want to teach without being "sure".
While further searching, I found the account of Samuel and the Witch of Endor. 1 Samuel 28:3, 11-16, 19. Also the following verses Job 19:25-27, Isaiah 5:14-15. I'm not trying to argue, just searching for truth.
If taken at face value, this contradicts Psalms 6:5, etc. What are your takes on this verse?
Thank you very much. God bless you.
Akira329:
--- Quote from: Ian on July 12, 2011, 10:25:35 PM ---More research... *sigh* I know in my heart and my mind that Ray is right, I just don't want to teach without being "sure".
While further searching, I found the account of Samuel and the Witch of Endor. 1 Samuel 28:3, 11-16, 19. Also the following verses Job 19:25-27, Isaiah 5:14-15. I'm not trying to argue, just searching for truth.
If taken at face value, this contradicts Psalms 6:5, etc. What are your takes on this verse?
Thank you very much. God bless you.
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I'm not exactly sure what your looking for Ian.
You've gotten really good answers!
What is it about those verses that contradict Psalms 6:5??
Antaiwan
Kat:
Hi Ian,
Well you know that you can find false theories about everything, we have to come to a point where we have faith that what we have is what God inspired and is using to teach His Elect. Pray for faith so that you can accept and believe the Scriptures and let God teach you these truths.
Here are a couple of emails that will help with this thing about Saul spirit being brought back by a witch.
http://forums.bible-truths.com/index.php/topic,124.0.html -------
Dear Anton:
Saul does not obey or trust God.
So he goes to a pagan inspired witch that are condemned in Israel.
The witch has a familiar spirit--a demon.
Saul asks the witch to call up Samuel's spirit--a pagan teaching.
God actually caused this opportunity to tell Saul his fate by the channel that Saul himself choose.
God revealed the fate of Saul through this witch.
Samuel was never there. Saul assumed that the "old man" had to be Samuel. It was not.
God be with you,
Ray
http://forums.bible-truths.com/index.php?topic=742.0 ----------------
Dear Peter:
Samuel was unconscious and DEAD during that whole Witch of Endor scenario. Our "spirit" does not have consciousness upon death. No witch or demon has the power to bring a dead person back to life. God uses "LYING SPIRITS" to comune with evil people such as Saul (See I Kings 22:22-23 & II Chron. 18:22-23).
God be with you,
Ray
Ian:
--- Quote from: Akira329 on July 12, 2011, 11:58:56 PM ---
--- Quote from: Ian on July 12, 2011, 10:25:35 PM ---More research... *sigh* I know in my heart and my mind that Ray is right, I just don't want to teach without being "sure".
While further searching, I found the account of Samuel and the Witch of Endor. 1 Samuel 28:3, 11-16, 19. Also the following verses Job 19:25-27, Isaiah 5:14-15. I'm not trying to argue, just searching for truth.
If taken at face value, this contradicts Psalms 6:5, etc. What are your takes on this verse?
Thank you very much. God bless you.
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I'm not exactly sure what your looking for Ian.
You've gotten really good answers!
What is it about those verses that contradict Psalms 6:5??
Antaiwan
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If the account of Samuel and the Witch of Endor is to be taken at face value, this contradicts Psalms 6:5. I had not seen the email that Ray wrote regarding it.
I write in private, so I cannot really get my thoughts down on "paper" before being interrupted (by someone or some thing).
I apologize for not being very coherent. It is hard to clarify what I am trying to say because I am unable to articulate my thoughts. This is due to what I mentioned above.
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