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Deuteronomy 21:18-21?
DougE6:
--- Quote ---So in everything, do to others what you would have them do to you, for this sums up the Law and the Prophets.
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So true. If we all followed this, there would be no need for any rules and laws and ordinances an the like.
But BACK THEN, Jesus had not YET given His, This, wonderful summary, this golden rule. God had only given these laws. He did not intend for the full revelation that would ONLY be provided in the giving of His Son to be provided merely in a bunch of laws. That is why the laws were destined to be only a shadow, and a "schoolmaster" to let sin be indentified as sin, and to show that yes indeed, sin demands Death. Even if it your own family members. If I lived back then, and I wanted to follow the Lord, I would of had to keep the law, the ceremonies, the circumcision, and the rules. If I was a true follower of the only true God, I would have to do the very things the law demanded. Including the killing of transgressors. Sorry. That is/was the way it was. We do not need to surgarcoat that away and say the law was not literal. Of course it was. First the physical, then the spiritual. We need to understand that sin does have consequences, it does have wages..Death. Jesus paid those wages, yes. Halleleujah. But we need to see it all in the proper light. We need to have a sober mind about evil and sin. God did not institute all those rules and regulations without a purpose. It is wonderful that we can see the purpose much more clearly than those that did not have our 20/20 hindsight of seeing the completion and fulfillment of the Law and Prophets in Christ. It should allow us to understand what God is showing us even more. But to say that those laws were not to be obeyed, were not literal laws, is incorrect. They were. They have been done away with in the New Covenant and in the much more glorious promises wherein; but we cannot dismiss from which our gospel came.
Dave in Tenn:
Hey, River. No worries. I understood what you were saying, agree, and appreciate your reply to clarify.
...we know that the law is good, if a man use it lawfully; yes, we do.
mharrell08:
--- Quote from: DougE6 on August 11, 2011, 03:58:14 PM ---But BACK THEN, Jesus had not YET given His, This, wonderful summary, this golden rule.
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Deut 10:17-19 For the LORD your God is God of gods and Lord of lords, the great God, mighty and awesome, who shows no partiality nor takes a bribe. He administers justice for the fatherless and the widow, and loves the stranger, giving him food and clothing. Therefore love the stranger, for you were strangers in the land of Egypt.
As Paul said, the Law is spiritual. It was spiritual the moment it was given. Israel simply did not have the heart to obey the commandments.
Deut 5:29 Oh, that they had such a heart in them that they would fear Me and always keep all My commandments, that it might be well with them and with their children forever!
Marques
Rene:
--- Quote from: River on August 10, 2011, 11:52:40 PM --- I would hope we wouldn't stone our kids at all. Not sure how many people really don't kill kids just because they think Jesus "bore that death with his own body." I really would hope that wouldn't be the only reason a person could come up with not to kill a kid. Even those who are unbelievers would be against stoning kids.
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This heartbreaking story just happened. :(
Girl spanked to death in the name of God. http://www.cnn.com/video/#/video/bestoftv/2011/08/15/exp.ac.tuchman.punishment.cnn?&hpt=hp_c2
René
JohnMichael:
--- Quote from: Rene on August 16, 2011, 08:40:33 AM ---
--- Quote from: River on August 10, 2011, 11:52:40 PM --- I would hope we wouldn't stone our kids at all. Not sure how many people really don't kill kids just because they think Jesus "bore that death with his own body." I really would hope that wouldn't be the only reason a person could come up with not to kill a kid. Even those who are unbelievers would be against stoning kids.
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This heartbreaking story just happened. :(
Girl spanked to death in the name of God. http://www.cnn.com/video/#/video/bestoftv/2011/08/15/exp.ac.tuchman.punishment.cnn?&hpt=hp_c2
René
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That is heartbreaking. To me, that shows what Legalism does.
In Him,
John
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