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Poor in spirit
Gina:
--- Quote from: gk on December 17, 2011, 10:57:06 AM ---Hi Gina, and you're right.
But.
What about this view of the prism?
Does what you say make the beast any less true, any less ravaging?
To think on it isn't necessarily 'dwelling' on it, but, if that's where God puts our heart 'for a time'..........doesn't that do exactly what it is he wants?........makes him greater, more so, than we ever first believed?
Sounds necessary, at least to me it does.
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God causes all That's true. Whatever happens could not have not happened.
gk wrote:
--- Quote ---To think on it isn't necessarily 'dwelling' on it,
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True. That's kinda what I meant when I said, it's good to have an honest estimation of ourselves, but rather fix our minds on the things which are pure, lovely, true, good report, etc., as God grants us the ability to fix our minds, which takes takes practice. Much easier said than done. :o
God bless you, gk.
Joel:
The fiery trials we face, and the beast within can reduce our spirits to sackcloth, and ashes. But we also can be encouraged that the Lord has our remedy.
Isaiah 61:3 - To appoint unto them that mourn in Zion, to give unto them beauty for ashes, the oil of joy for mourning, the garment of praise for the spirit of heaviness; that they might be called trees of righteousness, the planting of the Lord, that he might be glorified.
Joel
Deborah-Leigh:
Beautiful, heavenly offering Joel! 8)
Jer 31:34 ..... saith the LORD: for I will forgive their iniquity, and I will remember their sin no more.
God shall remember no more our sins!
Ps 139 : 12 ...darkness and light are both alike to thee...
All is perfect in Gods eyes. 8) for God is all perfection! ;D There is non like Him!~
acomplishedartis:
I never said that no spirit has consciousness. OUR spirit has no consciousness. God IS Spirit and God is conscious, but we are NOT GOD. We only have a form of spirit in us to keep us alive. When converted God gives us yet ANOTHER SPIRIT which is called the HOLY Spirit, and it effects out consciousness, but does not keep us conscious at death, as that requires resurrection.
Notice I Cor. 2;11--"For what man man knows the things of a man, except [for] the spirit of man which is IN HIM? even so the things of God knows no man, but the Spirit of God [in him]."
It is only when "the spirit of man" is "IN HIM" that he has consciousness and "knows the things of a man." OUT of him, the spirit of man knows no anything: "For the living know [when the spirit is still IN man] that they shall die: but the DEAD [when the spirit is returned to God--see Chapt. 3:19-20] KNOW NOT ANY THING...." (Ecc. 9:5).
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Okay, I think we are talking about two different things on the past comments:
When talking about, blessed are the poor in spirit...
1. Is it talking about consider our selves poor in the 'Spirit of God (the Holly spirit)' since we are still in the flesh and since we are not to think higher of our selves than we must?
or
2. Is it talking about being poor in 'the spirit of man'...
I know that understanding the concept of spirit is hard, because what the media has always show us, as a little ghost flying out of the person, as if a human spirit could be visible and have his own consciousness. But this is not the way it is, as most of the media is a lie.
I have thought about examples to try to understand this concept better but I still have to meditate more on it.
One thing that comes to mind to understand the concept spirit, is when we met a brother that believe and behave or act very similar than another one, and you say, ha! this persona reminds me so so much of that person... it is like they have the same spirit... In Jesus times, people whom met Jesus and where alive after his death and then knew their disciples, they could said; this Peter reminds me so much of that Jesus... it is like they have the same spirit. And actually they had the same spirit.
Deborah-Leigh:
--- Quote ---I never said that no spirit has consciousness. OUR spirit has no consciousness. God IS Spirit and God is conscious
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Hi Moises
Great contribution you quoted. ~ 8)
So..."OUR spirit has no consciousness"....
God never sleeps. God's Spirit, is conscious. "God is conscious."
God might be said to be Consciousness. Jesus said : Our friend Lazarus sleepeth; but I go, that I may awake him out of sleep.
So...when the Spirit of God that is awake, awakens our unconscious spirit...then we wake up to become more as God is...
Some Scriptures that point to this are ~
Rom 13:11 And that, knowing the time, that now it is high time to awake out of sleep: for now is our salvation nearer than when we believed.
Eph 5:14 Wherefore he saith, Awake thou that sleepest, and arise from the dead, and Christ shall give thee light. ~
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