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indianabob:
Exactly correct Kat,
Reproduction of the human species was and is a temporary need so that God would have the number of children He required and so that humans could share to a degree in creating the offspring they would engender and care for.
It may also be the case that male and female gender or emotional, hormonal sex differences are for the same purpose, that is to cause men and women to seek partners even against their own self interest.

For the future after our change comes, it may be that it is helpful for our understanding as counselors of the unconverted that we have a hands on understanding of what young people and what married partners are facing in getting along with one another. Not that Lord Jesus could not teach us what we need to know since he knows and understands all of our feelings and emotions even those of a pregnant woman in labor or of a husband who's wife dies in childbirth.

All of our human experiences are for the time being and for maturing us into adults with understanding and will be forgotten when the work is completed and we all are finally carrying out the glorious plans of God as pioneers of the ages to come. Then we will put away childish things such as seeking pleasure for ourselves, within our selves and will instead be concerned only for the best good of others as is explained in the two commandments Jesus gave us in Matthew.

And one of them, a doctor of the Law, putting him to the test, asked him, "Master, which is the great commandment in the Law?" Jesus said to him, "'Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with thy whole heart, and with thy whole soul, and with thy whole mind.' This is the greatest and the first commandment. And the second is like it, 'Thou shalt love thy neighbor as thyself.' On these two commandments depend the whole Law and the Prophets." (Matthew 22:35-40)

1Co 13:11  When I was a child, I spake as a child, I understood as a child, I thought as a child: but when I became a man, I put away childish things.
1Co 13:12  For now we see through a glass, darkly; but then face to face: now I know in part; but then shall I know even as also I am known.

In like manner, when we are changed to spirit existence it shall be comparable to maturing from a self centered infant in diapers to an adult of full age caring only for their beloved family and enjoying every minute of it.
Bob

the truth:
Hello,

1Jn 2:15  Love not the world, neither the things that are in the world. If any man love the world, the love of the Father is not in him.
1Jn 2:16  For all that is in the world, the lust of the flesh, and the lust of the eyes, and the pride of life, is not of the Father, but is of the world.
1Jn 2:17  And the world passeth away, and the lust thereof: but he that doeth the will of God abideth for ever.

indianabob:
Great quote Jerry,
It could not be said better.
Bob

Marky Mark:

--- Quote --- I believe we will be like Him in that way as having a physical body. After all, does "spiritual" body have to mean "invisible" body? Or, is it a body that is physical but not corrupted?

I suppose it is just conjecture without scriptural proof of the elect being raised the same way as Jesus will come again.

doug
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Hey Doug.

Looking at this verse...

Heb 11:3 Through faith we understand that the worlds were framed by the word of God, so that things which are seen were not made of things which do appear.

Gods word states that everything material is actually formed of things which do not appear. It is by this understanding that we must come to believe that flesh is not able to be as the wind[spirit].We must be born of the spirit,to be spirit, because, that which is born of flesh, is flesh.

Joh 3:5 Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God.
Joh 3:6 That which is born of the flesh is flesh; and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit.
Joh 3:7 Marvel not that I said unto thee, Ye must be born again.
Joh 3:8 The wind bloweth where it listeth, and thou hearest the sound thereof, but canst not tell whence it cometh, and whither it goeth: so is every one that is born of the Spirit.

When Jesus appeared in the flesh after His resurrection it was for the benefit of His disciples seeing that they did not have the faith to believe that it was actually Him.

Mark 16:14 Afterward he appeared unto the eleven as they sat at meat, and upbraided them with their unbelief and hardness of heart, because they believed not them which had seen him after he was risen.

Since spirit is invisible, Jesus had to show them which did not believe that He had risen from the dead,just as He said He would. Notice that Jesus Himself states that...a spirit hath not flesh and bones, as ye see me have....

Luke 24:39 Behold my hands and my feet, that it is I myself: handle me, and see; for a spirit hath not flesh and bones, as ye see me have.

Though spirit can manifest,appear, and be in another form...

Mark 16:12 After that he appeared in another form unto two of them, as they walked, and went into the country.

...into a physically appearing form ["as ye see me have"]., that in and of itself does not make spirit flesh. Thomas and others had to be shown because of their unbelief.
  Jesus' resurrection and appearance into a physical body of flesh was a temporary condition for the sake of the apostle's lack of faith. Notice that Jesus appeared in the room with them in the form of His former crucified self,holes and all...so that they might believe... so that they may have life... through His name[Word].

John 20:24 But Thomas, one of the twelve, called Didymus, was not with them when Jesus came.
John 20:25 The other disciples therefore said unto him, We have seen the Lord. But he said unto them, Except I shall see in his hands the print of the nails, and put my finger into the print of the nails, and thrust my hand into his side, I will not believe .
John 20:26 And after eight days again his disciples were within, and Thomas with them: then came Jesus, the doors being shut, and stood in the midst, and said, Peace be unto you.
John 20:27 Then saith he to Thomas, Reach hither thy finger, and behold my hands; and reach hither thy hand, and thrust it into my side: and be not faithless, but believing.
John 20:28 And Thomas answered and said unto him, My Lord and my God.
John 20:29 Jesus saith unto him, Thomas, because thou hast seen me, thou hast believed: blessed are they that have not seen, and yet have believed.
John 20:30 And many other signs truly did Jesus in the presence of his disciples, which are not written in this book:
John 20:31 But these are written, that ye might believe that Jesus is the Christ, the Son of God; and that believing ye might have life through his name.

Jesus's appearance was not only for those who did not believe at that time but is now also a necessary learning experience for our admonition ,through His Word,to all,that He is calling out...of the world.

Jesus being born[sown],crucified,and dying was part of the physical event of His earthly existence. Being raised from the dead was a spiritual event for Jesus, and a yet to come time for us,or His words would be a lie.

1Co 15:44 It is sown a natural body; it is raised a spiritual body. There is a natural body, and there is a spiritual body.
1Co 15:45 And so it is written, The first man Adam was made a living soul; the last Adam [was made] a quickening spirit.
1Co 15:46 Howbeit that [was] not first which is spiritual, but that which is natural; and afterward that which is spiritual.
1Co 15:47 The first man [is] of the earth, earthy: the second man [is] the Lord from heaven.
1Co 15:48 As [is] the earthy, such [are] they also that are earthy: and as [is] the heavenly, such [are] they also that are heavenly.
1Co 15:49 And as we have borne the image of the earthy, we shall also bear the image of the heavenly.
1Co 15:50 Now this I say, brethren, that flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God; neither doth corruption inherit incorruption.


Doug,you seem to avoid using scripture in your conjecture of how the Word of God is to be discerned. Although I believe you are trying to be sincere in what you post we are told not to think above that which is written.

1Co 4:6  And these things, brethren, I did transfer to myself and to Apollos because of you, that in us ye may learn not to think above that which hath been written, that ye may not be puffed up one for one against the other,

1Co 1:19  For it is written, I will destroy the wisdom of the wise, and will bring to nothing the understanding of the prudent.

We should pray to God always for an understanding of things Spiritual and not let every wind of false doctrine dictate[within and without ourselves] what the Truth of God is conveying through His Word,

 because...

Rev 22:18  For I testify unto every man that heareth the words of the prophecy of this book, If any man shall add unto these things, God shall add unto him the plagues that are written in this book:
Rev 22:19  And if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part out of the book of life, and out of the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book.

Hope this helps. Thanks...

Peace...Mark

John from Kentucky:
We do not yet know what we will be completely like in the 1st Resurrection.

Will we be sexual beings?  I don't know.  If you think you know, please quote two or three scriptures that prove your point.

The scriptures state that we will have a spiritual body in the 1st Resurrection.  The scriptures also state that God will have sons and daughters.

How can you have sons and daughters without sexual differences?  If we were not sexually different, if we were exactly the same, then we would be "its" and not sons and daughters.

None of us are nearly as spiritually smart as we think we are.  We are at the spiritual intellectual level of an unborn baby.

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