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Ian 155:
 
--- Quote from: Arcturus on August 03, 2012, 01:14:11 AM ---

"For starters, can you or I or anyone NOT give place to the devil, of their own free will? NO! LOL ~ ;D "

OK

Paul stated I have run the race I'm on my way to the podium, he also mentions his trials,all be they outward experiences,[2 cor 11]

2Ti 4:6  My life is being given as an offering for God. The time has come for me to leave this life here.[and take on His way of life] ?
 
2Ti 4:7  I have fought the good fight. I have finished the race. I have served the Lord faithfully.    [he was'nt guessing]

2Ti 4:8  Now, a prize is waiting for me--the crown that will show I am right with God. The Lord, the judge who judges rightly, will give it to me on that Day. Yes, he will give it to me and to everyone else who is eagerly looking forward to his coming.

Now for me who is still being dragged ...and have the Holy Spirit

Give the Devil NO Foothold/place, based on the word ... Resist comes to mind - we are unable to do this outside of our Lord yes, but we are able ? [more than conquerors]

I'm Not talking about false pious humility Oh woe to me this great sinner,I can't stop,must be Gods will etc, we know this,
 
Eve's instruction, do not look ,touch even think about that fruit / My instructions ,If at 1st you don't succeed ... that is until DUE time,present frustration is there as a thorn

Can we keep excusing ourselves by using select scripture, we have instructions and God is preventing us from obeying ? [Never]

Obedience is better than laying our lives down,by the same token laying ones life down is also obedience

Kris-is ??

now im all over the place
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space.ace.jase:

--- Quote from: Ian 155 on August 02, 2012, 03:11:31 PM ---Sounds a lot like myself here Dave - frustrated that from my perspective Im never ever gonna be perfect or at least there seems so much work to do due to the humoungous pile of trash thats gotta be dealt with ...everyone else seems to be hunky dory goood students and here am I just fallin and crawlin.

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Trust me Ian I am falling and crawling right along side you, taking each day as it comes.

It is true that this it is a long and difficult journey we must take but every journey is started with a single step. Don't be too hard on yourself- this isn't a 500m sprint it's a 42KM marathon. Rest in the fact that God has said in his word that HE WILL make us into his image, I will pray for you friend.

"being confident of this, that he who began a good work in you will carry it on to completion until the day of Christ Jesus." Phil 1:6


God Bless,
Jase

Ian 155:
We to impatient ? ya think

Gina:
I don't think you're too impatient, Ian, not from what you've shared with us.

Dave in Tenn:
I want to change my mind.  Is that OK?   ??? 

Here's what God said to the woman.

Gen 3:16  Unto the woman he said, I will greatly multiply thy sorrow and thy conception; in sorrow thou shalt bring forth children; and thy desire shall be to thy husband, and he shall rule over thee.

The 'thorns and thistles' were either for the man or for them both.  Don't ask me, I'm the worst bible-scholar I know (not knowing any preachers any more, other than by name.)  But specifically to the woman, that's what He said.

That makes more sense to me, and more aptly describes my life, even though I am a man.  Go figure.

 

 

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