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Satan's "Half" Lie/Truth??
Gina:
"And Jesus said, For judgment I am come in this world, they they which see not, might see; and that they which see might be made blind.
You're pretty sharp, Eugene.
I imagine they knew they were lacking something (indeed they were lacking).
She looked and saw that the tree was good for food, and that it was pleasant to the eyes, and a tree to be desired to make one wise, so she knew that. Why would she desire to be made wise if she thought she had wisdom? Obviously she didn't have wisdom, because she didn't see the evil to outcome. Dave In Tenn already established that much.
Did she know Satan was tricking her with the lie? No. Did she know that she was being deceived by Satan's lie? No. And that's what we all have to learn. Before our eyes are truly opened, we all know just enough to be dangerous.
Satan tricks (cheated) us with lies, not the truth. And, people can't be "tempted" with the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth.
Trick: a crafty or underhanded [crafty?] device, maneuver , or stratagem intended to deceive or cheat; artifice; ruse.
Satan doesn't like the truth and that's why the truth was never in him--not that he has never heard the truth. Eve wasn't just tempted, she was thoroughly tricked and cheated. She basically ate brownies laced with a little poo poo. (Reference Craig's "brownie ingredients" analogy.) All by design. All for a grander purpose. Satan meant it for evil, but God meant it for good.
dave:
Wow. That was all good. Thanks. I understand now that they did have knowledge before they ate.
Dave in Tenn:
Jesus said His words were Spirit and Life. Ray said, if we don't see ourselves in the Old Testament, we have no idea about the depths of our own carnality.
Let's not get so caught up examining the trees (reading all the words) that we fail to see the forest (Spirit and Life).
newgene87:
Thanks Gina and to that Dave 8) 8)
Im seeking to make it past the flaming sword to the tree of Life! to Judgment I goooooo ;D
Kenneth Clark:
One more more thought. It's 'preacher talk' to always equate obedience and disobedience with good and evil. They are not always the same things. GOOD and EVIL are the big picture. Eve disobeyed and that is an evil, but "...grief and the groaning of your pregnancy..." is an evil, but not disobedience.
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nice!
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