Ray spoke on this in one of his writings but i can not find it
. hopefully someone can. He mentioned that "Ye" refers to "you all" speaking of more than one person. or an irregular pural of thou. so with that in mind...
maybe it's something to, "...he (the serpent) said unto the woman". and not to the man (hmmmmm....)
"Yea, hath God said,
YE shall not eat of every tree of the garden.?" And the woman said unto the serpent,
WE may eat..." {and then...}..."...she took of the fruit thereof, and did eat, AND
GAVE ALSO UNTO HER husband
WITH HER; and he did eat" (Gen 3:1-2, 6)
"paying attention to the words" is like my favorite method now. As we can see, Adam WAS with her, but it was the Serpent that spoke to the woman first. maybe because she was "the weaker vessell" (??) [1 Pet 3:7]
Back to them having knowledge deal...I mean how could they really have "knowledge" when it was "knowledge" or better yet, "sense or perception" that was ONLY from that Tree? Well from the words of Ray, from the 2nd paper in the Lake of Fire series
It was not possible for Adam and Eve NOT TO SIN -- they were created for the express purpose of being molded into the "image of God;" and so of course, they had to eat of the forbidden tree of the knowledge of good and evil or they would have NEVER reached this first spiritual step in becoming LIKE GOD (in His IMAGE,) a step of paramount DIVINE REQUISITE:
"And the LORD God said, Behold [consider, to perceive, to know, to understand], the man is BECOME AS ONE OF US [Hebrew for ‘God’ is elohiym which is the plural of elowahh, hence ‘us’], TO KNOW GOOD AND EVIL..." (Gen. 3:22).
Knowing "good and evil" is one of the most essential requisites in being formed in the image of God. To truly "know" both good and evil they HAD to partake of its source, which was the "TREE of the knowledge of good and evil," which then DEMANDED that they SIN in order to obtain this "knowledge." NO OTHER TREE IN THE GARDEN POSSESSED THIS NEEDED KNOWLEDGE!I was reminded of two scriptures in Job containing this thought -
"Who is this that
darkens counsel by words WITHOUT knowledge? (Job 38:2)
"Willing to be
teachers of the law;
understanding neither what they say, nor whereof they affirm. (1 Timothy 1:7)
and these verses are in DIRECT relation to the words of the woman,
"and the woman said to the serpent, We may eat of the fruit of the trees of the garden (and
she missed when God said, "mayest eat FREELY" 2:16); but of the fruit of the tree that is in the midst of the garden, God has said, ye shall not eat of it, and ye shall not touch it, lest ye die (
God said, "DYING, thou shall die" 2:17)" (Genesis 3:2-3) -- she omitted "eat freely" and added "shall not touch it,
lest ye die"
surely, SHE HAD WORDS WITHOUT KNOWLEDGE AND DESIRING TO TELL THE SERPENT OF THE LAW OF GOD, NOT UNDERSTANDING WHAT SHE WAS SAYING. Adam stood there fooled as well, cause he didnt know either. he had LIFE (or the "breath of life") without knowledge. Just as Job, the Woman - "...hath
spoken without knowledge, and his (her)
words were without wisdom. (Job 34:35). and it falls back on that state of man..."OH THAT THERE WERE SUCH AN HEART IN THEM, THEY THEY WOULD FEAR ME, AND
KEEP ALL MY COMMANDMENTS ALWAYS" (Deuteronomy 5:29). Maybe the serpent knew that the Man would easily do what the woman was doing, out of fervent love for her.
Now this was a revelation JUST NOW typing all this. I would love some critiques and hopefully i stayed faithful to the scriptures. It is possible to have words without knowledge, as seen in those scriptures. And Adam was right along with her, just seems the target was the Woman, and she was beguiled. I dont understand HOW or WHY they would be APART from each other. As said at the end of chapter 2, he was to... "CLEAVE unto his wife". and even he sayed, "The woman whom Thou didst place with me--she hath given to me of the tree--and I do eat.'
well this is just my thinking and again, "paying attention to the words".
Eugene
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