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Eve thought it was a good idea?
Deborah-Leigh:
--- Quote from: hayley on March 24, 2013, 05:03:42 AM ---The question is:
Is there already a law that makes eve to sin before she did eat the fruit?
What makes eve to sin before she did eat the fruit?
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....Mother Eve and Adam were (1) NOT spiritually perfect in any way shape or form, BEFORE they actually ate of the forbidden fruit, and (2) neither did they sin and then partake of the forbidden fruit through the operation of something called "free will."
"And when the woman saw that the tree was GOOD FOR FOOD… Gen. 3:6:
1.
"…lust of the FLESH…" (I John 2:15)
and that it was PLEASANT TO THE EYES… Gen. 3:6:
1.
"…lust of the EYES…" (I John 2:15)
and a tree to be DESIRED TO MAKE ONE WISE Gen. 3:6:
1.
"…the PRIDE OF LIFE" (I John 2;15)
Eve committed EVERY CATEGORY OF SIN THERE IS IN THE WORLD, before… BEFORE she actually ate of the forbidden fruit.
ALL of Eve’s evil thoughts of pride, vanity, lust, greed, disobedience, and finally thievery proceeded NOT from Eve’s supposed "free will," but rather from out of her HEART. And the only reason these sins could come out of her heart is because THEY WERE ALREADY IN THERE FROM THE BEGINNING. BEFORE Eve actually ate of the forbidden fruit, she committed every category of sin in the world. And need I remind us that we were also, ALL IN ADAM, before he ate of the tree (I Cor. 15:22). Will we deny our own eyes and the Scriptures we have just read?http://bible-truths.com/lake15.html
Kat:
Hi hayley,
1Tim 2:13 For Adam was formed first, then Eve.
14 And Adam was not the one deceived; it was the woman who was deceived and became a sinner.
We know that Adam was created first and God was with Him for a time period and Ray indicated it could have been quite some time before God made Eve. It might be that Adam had developed a closer relationship with God, had time to develop (been given) more faith.
So on that day when Satan came with the intent to draw them into sin, of course he would have picked the one most likely to succumb to his influence. Satan was cunning and crafty and did what he had to do. All in God's plan.
mercy, peace and love
Kat
darren:
Over 7 BILLION humans on this planet. Drought, famine, shortage of clean drinking water, destroying rain forest, heavy logging, strip mining, drilling on land and at sea. Here are just a few things that has to be done in order for our non over populated planet with our 7 billion people just to survive. Not to mention the cause and effect of these things. people shouldn't live in certain parts of the world is just silly. I believe the people of Pompey would disagree. Unwanted births, nonsince really? Rape, insest, kids having babies, unprotected sex. All this is not preordain by God, I do remember Ray saying that we do make choices. No free will. That one can go against Gods Will, but never His intentions, or plan. Question: how many billions does it take until its consider over populated?
santgem:
--- Quote from: Arcturus on March 24, 2013, 12:44:11 PM ---
--- Quote from: hayley on March 24, 2013, 05:03:42 AM ---The question is:
Is there already a law that makes eve to sin before she did eat the fruit?
What makes eve to sin before she did eat the fruit?
--- End quote ---
....Mother Eve and Adam were (1) NOT spiritually perfect in any way shape or form, BEFORE they actually ate of the forbidden fruit, and (2) neither did they sin and then partake of the forbidden fruit through the operation of something called "free will."
"And when the woman saw that the tree was GOOD FOR FOOD… Gen. 3:6:
1.
"…lust of the FLESH…" (I John 2:15)
and that it was PLEASANT TO THE EYES… Gen. 3:6:
1.
"…lust of the EYES…" (I John 2:15)
and a tree to be DESIRED TO MAKE ONE WISE Gen. 3:6:
1.
"…the PRIDE OF LIFE" (I John 2;15)
Eve committed EVERY CATEGORY OF SIN THERE IS IN THE WORLD, before… BEFORE she actually ate of the forbidden fruit.
ALL of Eve’s evil thoughts of pride, vanity, lust, greed, disobedience, and finally thievery proceeded NOT from Eve’s supposed "free will," but rather from out of her HEART. And the only reason these sins could come out of her heart is because THEY WERE ALREADY IN THERE FROM THE BEGINNING. BEFORE Eve actually ate of the forbidden fruit, she committed every category of sin in the world. And need I remind us that we were also, ALL IN ADAM, before he ate of the tree (I Cor. 15:22). Will we deny our own eyes and the Scriptures we have just read?http://bible-truths.com/lake15.html
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This is in the beginning......
Eve did not sin and did not qualify her to sin before she did eat the fruit.
There is no law before in the beginning that qualifies her to sin in lusting, pride of life etc,
Eve sinned after eating the fruit, not before eating the fruit. Correct me if i'm wrong.
Deborah-Leigh:
The Creator makes you weak, so weakness must be experienced.
James 1 : 15 Then the evil DESIRE, when IT has conceived, gives birth to sin......
Sin, blindness and bondage, once fully experienced, brings the contrast "To appoint unto them that mourn in Zion, to give unto THEM beauty for ASHES.....Isaiah 61:3
Arc
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