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wanting to take vows... till marriage is possible
Ian 155:
--- Quote from: G. Driggs on November 12, 2013, 03:33:18 AM ---Another good option is forgiveness. Love covers a multitude of sins.
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Amen - and bottom line - husbands love your wives as Christ loved the church, giving himself up as....
onelovedread:
Sooooo, my first wife remarried soome years ago.
Should I tell her she's still married to me? ;) Not sure her Colombian husband would take kindly to that.
It would be good though, to tell wifey number 2 that we're not really married ;D
Sure would make things easier :D (I cracked myself up)
Ian 155:
I would agree you cannot un ring a bell but now that you/we know, I don't believe you/we would do it again, like we agree all is of God even a marital split - as for the woman with 5 husbands @ the well Jesus said go and sin no more....
17 “I have no husband,” she replied.
Jesus said to her, “You are right when you say you have no husband. 18 The fact is, you have had five husbands, and the man you now have is not your husband. What you have just said is quite true.”
Joel:
Mark 10:9-What therefore God hath joined together, let not man put asunder.
I have heard some lively discussions in my day as to which husband/wife was the one God joined them together with. :-\
Joel
Abednego:
Hi Connie. I don't really have any original thoughts to add on your original question, but indianabob would get my vote for most helpful response. I would have pretty much suggested the same thing.
With that being said, and seeing this has branched off slightly, I'd like to add something that i've been chewing on lately. It centers around:
--- Quote from: Joel on November 14, 2013, 11:30:59 AM ---Mark 10:9-What therefore God hath joined together, let not man put asunder.
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And
--- Quote from: theophilus on September 21, 2013, 06:33:48 AM ---Can someone define marriage scripturally? Who performed the first marriage? How do men get authority to perform the marriage ceremony?
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I'm not totally sold on what marriage really is anymore. Now before everyone tries to burn me at the stake, I am not saying our marriages are invalid. We all know the scriptures that talk about God and what's in our hearts.
But there are a few things that bother me.
A. Although God did speak against David for taking someones wife, during the time multiple wifes were not the issue.
1 Timothy 3:2 King James Version (KJV)
2 A bishop then must be blameless, the husband of one wife, vigilant, sober, of good behaviour, given to hospitality, apt to teach;
2nd witness
Titus 1:6 King James Version (KJV)
6 If any be blameless, the husband of one wife, having faithful children not accused of riot or unruly.
The scriptures tell us that there was a reason to have only one wife, can it be understood that it was not sin to have multiple wives?
I understand that many use the Genesis account to prove that marriage is between one man and one woman. But there were many in the bible that had multiple wives and I don't see where that was ever addressed as sin. Although Deuteronomy 17:17 does tell us it isn't the best idea. If it is wrong in the sight of God why do not the two above scriptures state they are unfit because they have multiple wives?
B. If man passes a law of the land saying we can only have one wife then yes, we are to observe that. But that does not mean that having more than one wife is a sin. Having more than one wife under those circumstances would indeed be a sin. Luke 16:18 and others tell us you can not divorce and marry another. But it doesn't say you can't just marry another.
OK, bear with me, as this is only a thought process and I'm still trying to figure this all out.
There was no JOP in the garden so who married Adam and Eve? Today I can be an atheist and still get married by a JOP as long as I give them that envelope when it's over.
So the big question I am dealing with right now; is there a difference between being married in the eyes of man and being married in the eyes of God? Getting a marriage license is the law and God expects us to follow it. But I still view it as an institution of man. (A much needed one at least at this time) Scripture tells us that a man joins to a woman, but we know that is spiritual, not something that is done with a piece of paper. Heck in some places that piece of paper can now join two women or two men.
So going back to Mark 10:9 how does God join us? Is a piece of paper really required, or is that just a way to lower your tax bracket?
When you get married "by someone", in my mind that someone performs the ceremony. ie I was married by a Catholic priest or a JOP. So how do you get married by God?
I'm glad I'm married now, because as these new truths have opened to me how could I possibly find someone to marry me? A minister will say you're married out one side of his mouth and then preach fire and a burning hell of torment out the other.
I would not suggest a new teaching on this nor should one be entertained on this forum. That is not the purpose here. I do believe, that the Scriptures can open up a lot more to us on marriage that is purposefully being hidden from us at this time. So until that time we do the best with what we have, and try to live the best we can as we feel directed. How I hate that word feel.
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