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rick:
I wouldn't call it a sermon lol  but I agree with your description. Thanks   ;D

Kat:
Heb 9:27  And as it is appointed to men once to die, but after this the judgment,

This is speaking of physical death and we only have to go through that "once." Now in the next age it is the beast through "judgment" that must die - the second death.

I believe the elect will be raised "like" Christ, or Christ will fully function in them, so that each of them will be capable of serving in whatever way He wants to use them. There will be no limitation in what the elect are able to do and just as Christ cannot be deceived or overpowered or threatened in any way, so the wicked will have no advantage whatsoever. The number of elect is not what matters (God knows the perfect number of them to prepare), their power and authority will be absolute, under Christ of course. Jesus knew what people were thinking, there can be no strife if wicked thoughts are not allowed to take root and conceive sin. Not that there will be no sin, but it will be so closely moderated and corrected quickly.

Anyway those are some of my thoughts on the elect ruling over the wicked.

mercy, peace and love
Kat

Akira329:

--- Quote from: Moises G. on March 18, 2014, 02:09:37 PM ---How do you guys think that ''the lake of fire/second dead'' will be like...?   I know it's purpose and who will be there (according to Scriptures)...  I also know that God is not respecter of persons, therefore I just wonder if people will be going trough purification while they know that they once had a life of sin in another age, I guess they must... I guess it might be something not so different than now, I don't know, I am just curious, and I don't know if somebody of you guys might have thought about it...   

--- End quote ---

If you are of the elect you will not be hurt but refined. What good you do, you will do better.
Remember Jesus said we will do greater things than the miracles he performed. One of those great things is teaching righteousness. Directing people to it. I think you know this Moises!

Also my personal thoughts on what life will be like leads me to these questions:
Spiritual resurrection?
Physical resurrection?

In regards to spiritual resurrection:
If I will be ruling and reigning with Christ that means I am part of the governing powers(principalities) of the universe. That's big responsibility! But what will my role be? At my resurrection will I be equipped enough to begin the teaching process? Jesus said we must be born again to the spirit. Will I be a spiritual babe learning all I need to learn to be able to rule with my lord? Honestly....Do you think at your death you have learned all you need to to be able to teach or guide someone to perfection? Spiritual resurrection seems more a mystery to me than physical but less complicated in my limited mind. Remember free will does not exist. We will guide, direct, counsel, and inspire people through circumstances that will lead them to perfection. Mind boggling when I think about it but that's the glory of such a position with Christ.

In regards to physical resurrection:
Now this is complicated to me! Although I don't know the means of a physical being becoming a spiritual being but sense the wicked will be resurrected to a physical life, my question is how??
I'm unsure if Christ's resurrection serves as the example only because his body didn't have time to decay but I also believe he received a spiritual glorious body that manifest into the visible. An example of what we might be able to do.
But what of the wicked. Even reading Ray's article helped little. Its here: http://forums.bible-truths.com/index.php/topic,7474.0.html
There are a few ways for me to think about physical resurrection:
As some are long gone and are even now dust, how will there bodies be returned? Is the flesh even important for a return? We are not ourselves until flesh and spirit become a living soul. This boggles my mind even more so than spiritual resurrection! How will this be? Will my bones return to me? My flesh too? HOW!LOL! I just don't know. All we seem to have is the valley of dry bones.

I can only think sometimes about how long this process may occur. If it took billions of years to get where we are now, how much more till God is all in all?

Just my thoughts.
Hope you guys can see where I'm coming from.
Nice topic Moises!

Antaiwan

Dave in Tenn:
Akira, there have been other discussions about how 'ready' the elect will be.  I'm not saying that out of any aversion to having another one, but to say that THOSE made me think.  The best I've come up with is in-line with what you shared.  Adding 'you must be born again' to 'you must become as a little child' to enter the kingdom (and many other passages as well) leads me to believe that there will still be 'growing' to do in resurrection.  The elect will have finally been fully "delivered from this body of death", and all that we've lived through and learned will be ready to put to perfect use according to His workmanship in us, but with the way I'm thinking now, I'd be right disappointed if there wasn't tons more to live and learn.   :D  That's the joy of this journey so far, and I'm not sure I'd even WANT to give that up.

Akira329:
That's exactly how I feel Dave!
There is so much to learn and so much life to live. I Don't want the journey to end. From our perspective it won't.
We won't know death but life.
Think about the wisdom it takes to truly shape another's life toward a life like Christ! That's humbling.
Also I don't want to beat a dead horse if all this has been discussed before. Its been a great while since I been involved on the forum.
Rays talks on what God was doing before creation is what gets me thinking.

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