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John 5:37
theophilus:
1 John 3:2 Beloved, we are God’s children now; WHAT WE WILL BE has not yet been revealed. What we do know is this: when he is revealed, WE WILL BE LIKE HIM, for we will see him as he is.
Consider "WHAT WE WILL BE" as opposed to "WHAT WE WILL LOOK LIKE". It's not about what we will LOOK LIKE; it's about what we WILL BE.
WHAT WE WILL BE has not yet been revealed. What we DO KNOW is this: when he is revealed, WE WILL BE LIKE HIM.
And what is Jesus like? Jesus is like His Father! And what is His Father like? The Lord God will have accomplished in the overcomers what He purposed in Himself when He said "Let us be making MAN in OUR image". The rest will follow eventually.
santgem:
--- Quote from: Dennis Vogel on May 06, 2014, 04:37:38 AM ---The key here is we do not yet know what this image is:
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Beloved, now are we the sons of God, and it doth not yet appear what we shall be: but we know that, when he shall appear, we shall be like him; for we shall see him as he is. 1Jo 3:2
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Greetings Dennis,
Yes it's true that we do not yet know what this image is.
The Lord loves us so much that it does not leave us clueless regarding the things that shall come. The Scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine. Sometimes we have to go deeper just like our brother Ray had done.
As for the others are saying and like Kat that we will have a "body" and "image";
and the Scripture is giving us hints..............
And after six days Jesus taketh Peter, James, and John his brother, and bringeth them up into an high mountain apart,And was transfigured before them: and his face did shine as the sun, and his raiment was white as the light. And, behold, there appeared unto them Moses and Elias talking with him.Then answered Peter, and said unto Jesus, Lord, it is good for us to be here: if thou wilt, let us make here three tabernacles; one for thee, and one for Moses, and one for Elias.While he yet spake, behold, a bright cloud overshadowed them: and behold a voice out of the cloud, which said, This is my beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased; hear ye him.And when the disciples heard it, they fell on their face, and were sore afraid. And Jesus came and touched them, and said, Arise, and be not afraid.And when they had lifted up their eyes, they saw no man, save Jesus only. And as they came down from the mountain, Jesus charged them, saying, Tell the vision to no man, until the Son of man be risen again from the dead. Mat 17:1-9
Kat:
Yes theo, I agree with what you are saying, it is ultimately all about the spiritual. But I know people that believe that when brought into the kingdom and made one with God it means to sort of dissolve into this oneness and become a part of it and to lose ones identity altogether. I totally disagree with that idea.
I believe that to recognize that Christ has an 'image' that identifies Him and that we all will continue to have one too, is an important thing to understand. Of course that is not more important than the spiritual aspect of it, but I think it is something that is significant.
mercy, peace and love
Kat
theophilus:
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Yes theo, I agree with what you are saying, it is ultimately all about the spiritual. But I know people that believe that when brought into the kingdom and made one with God it means to sort of dissolve into this oneness and become a part of it and to lose ones identity altogether. I totally disagree with that idea.
I believe that to recognize that Christ has an 'image' that identifies Him and that we all will continue to have one too, is an important thing to understand. Of course that is not more important than the spiritual aspect of it, but I think it is something that is significant.
mercy, peace and love
Kat
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I see. Them people are wrong. If we speak of having a body, it follows logically that it will have an image. Jesus said his Father was greater than him. Also, 1 Cor. 15:28 Now when everything has been subjected to the Son, then he will subject himself to God, who subjected everything to him; so that God may be EVERYTHING IN EVERYONE.
It appears to me the Son will continue to be lesser than his Father as he will subject himself to God; us much more. I don't see us dissolving in oneness with the God. I see us joining with God in oneness.
Jesus is now a Placer, a subjector. When the culmination comes, when he hands over the Kingdom to God the Father, he will cease to be a subjector.
Ian 155:
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It appears to me the Son will continue to be lesser than his Father as he will subject himself to God; us much more. I don't see us dissolving in oneness with the God. I see us joining with God in oneness.
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Theo how do we expain the verse "I and the Father are one"
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