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John 5:37
JD:
--- Quote from: John from Kentucky on May 18, 2014, 05:23:55 PM ---Ray understood the truth that God is One. Just read the end of his creed, which I have attached below. But as Ray said somewhere before, "There is a difference in knowing a truth and being able to explain a truth." Ray did not have the time or energy at the end to fully explain this truth.
I talked to Ray on the phone about this. I said I was stunned at where he was going with this enigma of God matter, and I thought most members on the Forum wouldn't get it. Ray told me we must all follow where the Spirit leads. I respected his wishes and did not discuss this matter further with him.
But at the end of Ray's creed, where he says Jesus is God's autobiography, I immediately understood what Ray was saying.
It doesn't take great intelligence to understand, just knowledge of what the English word "autobiography" means.
When someone writes an autobiography, are they writing about someone else? Or. Are they writing about themselves? Easy peasy.
http://bible-truths.com/Creed.htm
Actually, I have accumulated multiple Scriptures that prove the truth of Ray's creed. However, it would be a waste of my time to present them. Only God's Spirit can give understanding of spiritual truths.
In 1 Corinthians 8:6, Paul presents one of the master Scriptures, which clearly explains the nature of God. But who believes it? Most have to explain it away.
However, in the Scripture just below, in 1 Cor. 8:7, Paul states, However not all men have this knowledge... Paul was speaking to the Church. Few had this knowledge 2,000 years ago, and few of the chosen ones have this knowledge today. Which is by the will of God. I believe it will be the age to come when Jesus explains the nature of God to His Elect. But I thank God (through Ray) that He gave me a foretaste of this understanding. I find it very comforting.
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Bravo John. Bravo - great post!
AwesomeSavior:
Wow… just wow… The arrogance and the lack of humility on display here in some of these posts, before the Almighty, is astonishing, almost to the point of being nauseating (you know who you are). Perhaps a good reading of 1 Corinthians Chapter 13 (the WHOLE chapter) would help, not to mention praying to God to see that we are nothing but the dust of the Earth.
indianabob:
Hi AwesomeSavior,
Appreciate your comment but would like to add some "moderation" of my own.
Everyone here is in learning mode and God knows how much understanding HE has graced us with, so God is not offended at our limitations and emotional emphasis or lack of humility in certain comments. God would much rather we "shake our fists" in His sovereign face than to fight among ourselves. God can take it in stride without getting mad. Plus it gives us practice repenting on our knees. ;D
God is a loving Father and knows our frame and when we may comment in ignorance or from ego or even arrogance God just chuckles and considers the source. After all God put us here to stumble and skin our knees so to speak and to learn tolerance and to learn it the "hard way". The main thing God wants us to learn is to play well together and try to see things through the eyes of our brethren and to be always ready to forgive an offense.
Hebrews 2:6-8 asks what is man that thou are mindful of him/them.
It is speaking of the Lord Jesus and of course of Jesus' brethren
And yes we are nothing but dust physically, but what potential we have...
1 John 3:2 Beloved, now are we the sons of God, and it doth not yet appear what we shall be: but we know that, when he shall appear, we shall be like him; for we shall see him as he is.
The main point I wish to make is that we should be able to state our views curtly without offending a brother too much. It's sort of like having ourselves corrected by a spouse or one of our own kids who love us and yet understand little of the world.
I do sincerely appreciate your views as well.
Kindly offered, Indiana Bob
santgem:
Greetings everyone!
Trivia!
Did you know that after Jesus comes out of the Father, God the Father can not create things without Jesus Christ............ ???huh!??????what...%^&*()_%$#@!_+(*&DUH!!!! ::) :-\ :( ;)
JD:
Yeah John - you know who you are! ;D
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