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Kat:
In Gen. 1:26-27 "created man in His own image; in the image of God He created him; male and female He created them," this is the first creation of human beings. Not as a herd, Bob, but a single man and woman that God started with, probably many thousands of years before Adam and Eve. Possibly similar to what scientist say, where they gradually spread out across the world.
Then at the time appointed God "formed" Adam (Gen 2:7), this was the beginning of His plan of salvation for mankind, through that lineage. It is not hard for me to believe that God kept a pure line from Adam all the way to the point that the Son was born into the world.
I do believe Adam and Eve were real people, but I believe much of the story elements are symbolic... the tree of life - is Christ for obvious reasons, the talking serpent was not a snake, but the nature of the 'person' was symbolized by a snake as cunning, crafty, prudent, subtile to lure Eve into disobeying.
There is symbolism throughout Scripture, there are higher spiritual message in all of it. But it's hidden from the world, they can only see the literal story, the physical/natural comes first.
1Co 15:46 However, the spiritual is not first, but the natural, and afterward the spiritual.
mercy, peace and love
Kat
zvezda:
--- Quote from: lilitalienboi16 on April 29, 2015, 08:26:53 PM ---All the scriptures harmonize perfectly when you come to realize that adam wasn't the first man on the earth, just the first man to till the earth and dress it (farmer).
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I am not so sure about Adam being the first farmer, humans started farming about 12,000 years ago (10,000 BC). It seems that there were farmers long before Adam, do some research on history of agriculture if you like.
lilitalienboi16:
--- Quote from: zvezda on April 30, 2015, 07:59:22 AM ---
--- Quote from: lilitalienboi16 on April 29, 2015, 08:26:53 PM ---All the scriptures harmonize perfectly when you come to realize that adam wasn't the first man on the earth, just the first man to till the earth and dress it (farmer).
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I am not so sure about Adam being the first farmer, humans started farming about 12,000 years ago (10,000 BC). It seems that there were farmers long before Adam, do some research on history of agriculture if you like.
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Hi Zvezda,
I don't have a problem with the dating being off. Its not off very much. I understand the dating techniques used in science, [removed], and we humans aren't without error in our study of the past. Our techniques are subject to their own limitations as well as human error. A perfect example of this is the current Egyptian chronology and the fierce debate that is currently going on to revise it. When you look this far back into the past, with nothing but fragments of it remaining, the image you get is quiet murky and unclear. Mistakes are made. What I do trust without a doubt is God and His timeline.
God bless,
Alex
dave:
--- Quote from: Kat on April 29, 2015, 10:27:04 PM ---
In Gen. 1:26-27 "created man in His own image; in the image of God He created him; male and female He created them," this is the first creation of human beings. Not as a herd, Bob, but a single man and woman that God started with, probably many thousands of years before Adam and Eve. Possibly similar to what scientist say, where they gradually spread out across the world.
Then at the time appointed God "formed" Adam (Gen 2:7), this was the beginning of His plan of salvation for mankind, through that lineage. It is not hard for me to believe that God kept a pure line from Adam all the way to the point that the Son was born into the world.
I do believe Adam and Eve were real people, but I believe much of the story elements are symbolic... the tree of life - is Christ for obvious reasons, the talking serpent was not a snake, but the nature of the 'person' was symbolized by a snake as cunning, crafty, prudent, subtile to lure Eve into disobeying.
There is symbolism throughout Scripture, there are higher spiritual message in all of it. But it's hidden from the world, they can only see the literal story, the physical/natural comes first.
1Co 15:46 However, the spiritual is not first, but the natural, and afterward the spiritual.
mercy, peace and love
Kat
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:)
Joel:
I agree Alex that dating issues are a problem that as of now are mostly unresolved.
The Bible that we have does a lot to help in understanding how things came about. God chose Abram,(Abraham) a shepherd that was constantly moving his flocks to greener pastures.
After many years of God blessing him and increasing his family and flocks one of his sons Jacob, (Israel) took his family into Egypt.
Egypt was one of the first places that put growing crops and raising cattle together (farming) and became a mighty people. After 400 years God moved the Israelites out of Egypt to a land flowing with milk and honey. (The fertile crescent).
Another thing that comes to mind; The sons of God, those that are chosen of God, lead by his Spirit, and have faith, could still to this day be taking wives from the daughters of men.
Joel
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