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1 Cor 15:51
rick:
1Jn 3:9 Whosoever is born of God doth not commit sin; for his seed remaineth in him: and he cannot sin, because he is born of God.
I guess that scripture ensures my appoitment at the white throne judgement as I don't believe Im sin free at this point and time in my life.
Im confused though because scripture also says if anyone says they have not sinned they are lying and have not the love of God in them.
God bless.
Kat:
Hi Rick, when we have received the Holy Spirit we become a "new creation" (2Cor 5:17; Gal 6:15), it's not that we are no longer carnal or sin, but with the Spirit indwelling we are not under the death penalty, we have life, spiritual life.
Rom 6:4 Therefore we were buried with Him through baptism into death, that just as Christ was raised from the dead by the glory of the Father, even so we also should walk in newness of life.
v. 5 For if we have been united together in the likeness of His death, certainly we also shall be in the likeness of His resurrection,
v. 6 knowing this, that our old man was crucified with Him, that the body of sin might be done away with, that we should no longer be slaves of sin.
v. 7 For he who has died has been freed from sin.
Rom 8:1 There is therefore now no condemnation to those who are in Christ Jesus, who do not walk according to the flesh, but according to the Spirit.
v. 2 For the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus has made me free from the law of sin and death.
Rom 4:7 "Blessed are those whose lawless deeds are forgiven, and whose sins are covered;
v. 8 blessed is the man against whom the Lord will not count his sin."
1Cor 6:11 That is what some of you were! But you were washed, you were sanctified, you were justified in the name of our Lord Jesus the Messiah and by the Spirit of our God.
Psa 103:11 For as the heavens are high above the earth, So great is His mercy toward those who fear Him;
v. 12 As far as the east is from the west, So far has He removed our transgressions from us.
1John 3:9 Whoever has been born (G1080, begotten) of God does not sin, for His seed remains in him; and he cannot sin, because he has been born (begotten) of God.
What I believe it means by "cannot sin" is that "you died, and your life is hidden with Christ in God" (Col 3:3 )... keeping going with this thought "And you were dead in the trespasses and sins" (Eph 2:1) and finally "(even when we were dead in sins) has made us alive together with Christ (by grace you are saved)" (Eph 2:5)... v. 8 For by grace you are saved through faith, and that not of yourselves, it is the gift of God."
It's all about Christ, when His Spirit comes into us we are His and He has us covered, "there is no condemnation to those who are in Christ Jesus." Now with the Spirit God in us, teaching us, we are overcoming.
1John 5:4 For whatever is born (begotten) of God overcomes the world. And this is the victory that has overcome the world—our faith.
1John 4:4 You are of God, little children, and have overcome them, because He who is in you is greater than he who is in the world.
Php 1:6 being confident of this very thing, that He who has begun a good work in you will perform it until the day of Jesus Christ,
One other thing it is the same Greek word for born and begotten, while still in the flesh we are begotten, we have the earnest or promise of the inheritance of being born into His Kingdom at the first resurrection.
Eph 1:14 who is the guarantee (G728 a pledge, that is, part of the purchase money or property given in advance as security for the rest: - earnest.) of our inheritance until the redemption of the purchased possession, to the praise of His glory.
As long as we are in this fleshly carnal body we are not born of the spirit.
John 3:6 That which is born of the flesh is flesh, and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit.
v. 7 Do not marvel that I said to you, 'You must be born again.'
v. 8 The wind blows where it wishes, and you hear the sound of it, but cannot tell where it comes from and where it goes. So is everyone who is born of the Spirit."
Hope this helps.
mercy, peace and love
Kat
Mike Gagne:
Thanks Kat, would just like to add to that,
Hi Rick like Kat showed we are hid in Christ
Gal 2:20 I am crucified with Christ: nevertheless I live; yet not I, but Christ liveth in me: and the life which I now live in the flesh I live by the faith of the Son of God, who loved me, and gave himself for me.
Gal 2:21 I do not frustrate the grace of God: for if righteousness come by the law, then Christ is dead in vain.
Rom 7:14 For we know that the law is spiritual: but I am carnal, sold under sin.
Rom 7:15 For that which I do I allow not: for what I would, that do I not; but what I hate, that do I.
Rom 7:16 If then I do that which I would not, I consent unto the law that it is good.
Rom 7:17 Now then it is no more I that do it, but sin that dwelleth in me.
And again,
Rom 7:18 For I know that in me (that is, in my flesh,) dwelleth no good thing: for to will is present with me; but how to perform that which is good I find not.
Rom 7:19 For the good that I would I do not: but the evil which I would not, that I do.
Rom 7:20 Now if I do that I would not, it is no more I that do it, but sin that dwelleth in me
Rom 7:24 O wretched man that I am! who shall deliver me from the body of this death?
Rom 7:25 I thank God through Jesus Christ our Lord. So then with the mind I myself serve the law of God; but with the flesh the law of sin
Rom 8:1 There is therefore now no condemnation to them which are in Christ Jesus, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit
Psa 32:2 Blessed is the man unto whom the LORD imputeth not iniquity, and in whose spirit there is no guile.
Revelation 14:5 (KJV)
5 And in their mouth was found no guile: for they are without fault before the throne of God.
Michael
rick:
Hi Kat and Michael,
I been thinking and reflecting on the scriptures you both had put in your reply these past few days, I've come to understand what is not possible for man is for God.
One cannot hurry things or slow things, Gods timing is always perfect. It seems God always gives us what we need when we need it for our growth though one may not always see it that way.
Psa, 32:2 Blessed is the man unto whom the Lord imputeth not iniquity and in whose spirit there is no guile.
There is so much to be thankful for.
God bless. :)
Mike Gagne:
Hi Rick
--- Quote ---One cannot hurry things or slow things, Gods timing is always perfect. It seems God always gives us what we need when we need it for our growth though one may not always see it that way.
--- End quote ---
Very true :)
Php 2:13 For it is God which worketh in you both to will and to do of his good pleasure.
Amen to being thankful to God
Righteousness, Peace and Joy
Michael
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