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Porter:
Daniel,

It's true, all parables mean the same thing as in "many are called, but few are chosen". I think the main thrust in all of this (at least to me) is the absolute sovereignty of God in deciding who will reap the benefits of His Spirit (minas) which is a down payment on His Kingdom to come.

Eph 1:11  In Him we were also made His inheritance, predestined according to the purpose of the One who works out everything in agreement with the decision of His will,
Eph 1:12  so that we who had already put our hope in the Messiah might bring praise to His glory.
Eph 1:13  In Him you also, when you heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation--in Him when you believed--were sealed with the promised Holy Spirit.
Eph 1:14  He is the down payment of our inheritance, for the redemption of the possession, to the praise of His glory. 

The ones who gave interest back are the chosen, the one who did not give interest back was only called. Both groups were caused by God to do or not do what they did according to His purpose. Ultimately it was God who made it grow.

1Co 3:7  So then neither is he that planteth any thing, neither he that watereth; but God that giveth the increase.
1Co 3:8  Now he that planteth and he that watereth are one: and every man shall receive his own reward according to his own labour.

 I found it interesting that the one who made no interest was afraid and unbelieving which Christ warned against for those who will be chosen.

Joh 14:27  Peace I leave with you, my peace I give unto you: not as the world giveth, give I unto you. Let not your heart be troubled, neither let it be afraid. 

Whats even more interesting is how much I've personally struggled with fear and unbelief lately. So studying this and sharing helps. Thanks Daniel.

I hope I wasn't out of line here, but if it wasn't for Ray's teachings which God gave him to share I'd still be in dark about this. This is after all why we are here; to discuss what we have learned from Ray at bible truths. I think it's worth repeating that Ray was right in that it's all One.

Mickiel:

I often wonder about knowledge, and if God will only reveal it from one source? Well, I can't find that in scripture, believers learned from many prophets and apostles and deacons ; along with learning from women, who gave much money to Christ ministry. In Prov.1:5 " A wise man will hear, and will increase learning." It does not matter where he hears it; from a book , a website, a science article, or an old believer. Its as if the bible is suggesting that we seek knowledge, look for it where ever. In Prov. 15:14, "The heart of him that has understanding, seeks knowledge." You go out and look for it. It does not suggest that we sit in one place and hope to receive knowledge only there.

Hey its not even that important, because soon what we learned will pass away. 1Corinth. 13:8'" Charity never fails, but whether there be prophecies, they shall fail,  whether there be tongues, that shall cease, whether there be knowledge, it shall vanish away." Because we have far more to learn in the Kingdom of God, what we learn here on earth will vanish. Its nothing to cherish. Not in the long run, or eternity. Knowledge will be increased in the end, Daniel 12:4, not just spiritual knowledge, but all knowledge. What do you think about Isaiah 9:7? Of the " Increase of his government and peace, there shall be no end." The government of God includes knowledge, understanding, love, joy, all the fruits of the spirit; those all will never stop increasing.

Real knowledge never stops increasing, with any church, any leader, or any group; knowledge cannot be limited, which is trying to limit God really. I say this in all seriousness and humble in spirit, I mean absolutely no insult to anyone. And if these be my last words here, then peace to you all. I hope the best for all of you.

lareli:

--- Quote from: Mickiel on August 05, 2017, 04:55:36 PM ---
I often wonder about knowledge, and if God will only reveal it from one source? Well, I can't find that in scripture, believers learned from many prophets and apostles and deacons ; along with learning from women, who gave much money to Christ ministry. In Prov.1:5 " A wise man will hear, and will increase learning." It does not matter where he hears it; from a book , a website, a science article, or an old believer. Its as if the bible is suggesting that we seek knowledge, look for it where ever. In Prov. 15:14, "The heart of him that has understanding, seeks knowledge." You go out and look for it. It does not suggest that we sit in one place and hope to receive knowledge only there.

Hey its not even that important, because soon what we learned will pass away. 1Corinth. 13:8'" Charity never fails, but whether there be prophecies, they shall fail,  whether there be tongues, that shall cease, whether there be knowledge, it shall vanish away." Because we have far more to learn in the Kingdom of God, what we learn here on earth will vanish. Its nothing to cherish. Not in the long run, or eternity. Knowledge will be increased in the end, Daniel 12:4, not just spiritual knowledge, but all knowledge. What do you think about Isaiah 9:7? Of the " Increase of his government and peace, there shall be no end." The government of God includes knowledge, understanding, love, joy, all the fruits of the spirit; those all will never stop increasing.

Real knowledge never stops increasing, with any church, any leader, or any group; knowledge cannot be limited, which is trying to limit God really. I say this in all seriousness and humble in spirit, I mean absolutely no insult to anyone. And if these be my last words here, then peace to you all. I hope the best for all of you.

--- End quote ---

I understand what you're sayin brother.

If one can discern between good and evil (Hebrews 5:14) One can learn something new and true from almost anyone and anything.. even from unbelievers or a deceived Christian.. God can speak truth to us through nature or even through the mouth of a donkey if He wants to.

John from Kentucky:
Just curious.

When we all joined this Forum, we agreed to follow the Forum rules.  There is an article under the Forum rules, which says "Read this before joining and posting on the Forum."

My question is, why do some of you lie and not follow the Forum rules?  What spirit leads you to lie?

Also, we come here as a place of refuge to rest in God's Truth.  If we wanted to read a bunch of false religious opinions, we could go to thousands of religious sites on the Internet.  That is if we first get a spiritual lobotomy and have most of our spiritual brains removed.

Stacey:
"How we understand the bible is more important than how we understand Ray"

Mickiel,

We are not here to understand L Ray Smith. We are here to learn, study and discuss Ray's teachings/papers.

Understanding the bible is what Christendom tries to do on Sunday morning and evening and Wednesday nights.

Understanding Scripture is what Ray studied and has passed on to us.

I dont always agree with threads getting locked or members getting banned but I do understand completely the need to enforce the BT forum rules.

There are numerous sites to discuss what we have learned, how we have learned or who we learned knowledge from but this is not that kind of site. However, there is the option here to chat it up about anything through PM.

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