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Literally and Physically True?
lareli:
Didn’t mean to perplex you Wanda.. got off track when responding to Dave’s comment about psychology not saving you after you die. My point was that I see the Bible as spiritually and psychologically true but not all of it is literally true. Which parts are literally true or not.. I’m not sure. I don’t know that it matters if I believe a part is literally true as long as I believe it as spiritually/psychologically true.
The life, death, burial, resurrection of Christ was the original aspect of my question. Because Dave had mentioned in another thread that scripture requires literal belief of some things but not of everything. I’m paraphrasing Dave’s comment.
John from Kentucky:
The life, death, burial, and resurrection of Jesus is literally and spiritually true in all aspects as described in the New Testament.
Everything and all salvation hangs on it.
Which is why Satan attacks the truth and in his subtle ways tries to cast doubts on the truth.
All he wants is for his minions to cast the slightest doubts and thereby overthrow the spiritually weak who are not the Elect. Of course, Satan has no power over the Elect.
Dennis Vogel:
--- Quote ---Of course, Satan has no power over the Elect.
--- End quote ---
Maybe define "power" John. Because I wrestle and fall all the time. Vanity, lust, etc. None of us are perfect (yet).
Pro 24:16 For a just man falleth seven times, and riseth up again: but the wicked shall fall into mischief.
Eph 6:12 For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places.
John from Kentucky:
--- Quote from: Dennis Vogel on September 04, 2018, 02:44:22 PM ---
--- Quote ---Of course, Satan has no power over the Elect.
--- End quote ---
Maybe define "power" John. Because I wrestle and fall all the time. Vanity, lust, etc. None of us are perfect (yet).
Pro 24:16 For a just man falleth seven times, and riseth up again: but the wicked shall fall into mischief.
Eph 6:12 For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places.
--- End quote ---
I agree with your Scriptures. You seem to have the same problem I do. I cannot stop sinning. Good thing we have a Savior.
However, the Sriptures tell us God chose the Elect before creation.
There is no free will. We cannot choose to be the Elect. Neither can we unchoose to be the Elect.
God is sovereign. Whom God has chosen to be the Elect, will be the Elect at God's appointed time. Satan has no power to negate God's will. Satan cannot deceive the Elect or stop the Elect.
Which is why it is written in the Book of Revelation, that the Woman, the true Church, will be taken on the wings of eagles, to be protected from the flood of waters sent by Satan to harm the true Church, the Elect. It is God Who protects the Elect, His chosen ones. We have nothing to fear.
Dennis Vogel:
Understood
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